Glorious NSE Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Do you you think it makes it look too busy? I think this is a personal taste kind of question? Personally I don't mind "busy" as long as it's also both plausible and useful (trading space for scenic treatment versus "play value" effectively?) When you get the boards, maybe mock it up and see what you think? You don't necessarily *need* to have a separate track for a loco to be serviced on (they can service it anywhere they can get a truck to it for fueling) - so if it were me i'd leave that off and use the space to move the lead up a bit more closely to the main (that maximises space for scenery inside the yard, and maximises potential track lengths too) - Alternately, keeping the loco spur and moving it into the lower right corner would allow the lead to be closer to the main again, with a similar result? But ultimately, down to taste! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeaky Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) Well the baseboards have arrived from Grainge and Hodder, now where did I put the glue..........I've dry fitted one and they go together very nicely. Martyn, you are correct, I need to get the boards built, print out some peco templates and have a play and see how it works. I've amended the plan slightly, i'd like to keep the loco spur just so I can build a shed for the switcher to go in! One of the yard switches is now a curved one! Edited April 15, 2015 by squeaky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeaky Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 Today I have finished the first board of the 3, this will be the middle board. The second board has been started..... Just 2 more to build and I can start putting some track on the boards to find the best plan. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 How about one of these for you're scrap yard power, ELG Metals Port Vue PA. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Nice! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeaky Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 I like that, I was thinking of the 44 tonner, but wanted a generic looking one, well there it is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I have a 45 tonner in green which runs very well on DCC, there is a slight buzz (silent on DC) which is in built to agitate the commutator at very slow revs. The cross ways air tanks unclip to reveal a circular weight which drops out to allow space for 10mm speaker, the decoder is a generic Bachmann one, but very tuneable and the loco will run over #5 dead frog points without problems. 4 cars are about max on level track but I guess that is about prototypical. The 44 tonner is now cheaper by about £20 but I have no knowledge of it's performance. Walthers SW1 might make a good alternative, the current Rock Island red with yellows ends would be my starting point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 The 45t outside rods do look good though...If it's opening up to other switchers, the Bachmann Alco's are good for the money.Industrials give you the option of going for some real oddities though - Atlas makes these - they did the Relco yellow scheme as well, I always regretted not getting one when they were available:http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=252072&nseq=7http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=148031&nseq=18http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2303892http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=462447&nseq=2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 RELCO have have several S2/S4 switchers on their fleet, as the livery is all yellow the Bachmann S2/S4 in UP would make an easy staring point http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locoList.aspx?id=RLCX 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I'm not trying to take over this thread, just have a thing about scrap gondolas(I'm taking the tablets nurse!). Here is my own 45 tonner, which has appeared before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeaky Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) I think we have same affliction, I have on the way from Canada 8 x Sullivan scrap wagons! http://www.athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=ATH97584 http://www.athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=ATH97583 http://www.athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=ATH97514 http://www.athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=ATH97513 I'm going to go with a 45 Tonner as the scrap yard critter as I like the outside rods, reminds me of an 08 Edited April 24, 2015 by squeaky 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Yes the side rods are almost hypnotic, the green model seems to be still available at a reasonable price. Here is a real one with an interesting addition a one end, a winch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeaky Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 What do you call a reasonable price? I found one at a certain shop in Liverpool for £74, they also have the black one at £74 and a green one at £92! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrossouw79 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 If I can chip in. Here are a few from Trainworld in New York. Green: http://www.trainworld.com/manufacturers/Bachmann/Bachmann-ho-scale/spectrum-diesel-locomotives/spectrum-ho-ge-center-cab-45-ton-switcher-dcc-on-board-painted-unlettered-green-with-yellow-handrails-85204/ Red: http://www.trainworld.com/manufacturers/Bachmann/Bachmann-ho-scale/spectrum-diesel-locomotives/spectrum-ho-ge-center-cab-45-ton-switcher-dcc-on-board-painted-unlettered-red-with-yellow-handrails-85203/ Yellow: http://www.trainworld.com/manufacturers/Bachmann/Bachmann-ho-scale/spectrum-diesel-locomotives/spectrum-ho-ge-center-cab-45-ton-switcher-dcc-on-board-painted-unlettered-yellow-with-black-safety-stripes-85201/ Looking forward to this layout since I also like scrap gons. Cheers Jacques Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Yes the Liverpool ones are the cheapest at the moment, £109 retail on the Bachmann website, 4 different colours all over £85 at another well known retailer and $129 via Walthers site ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 24, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) Are they the standard boards they produce as I can't see 450mm wide and could you please take a picture underneath so I can see the top of the leg fixing on theirs Edited April 24, 2015 by PaulRhB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeaky Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 Are they the standard boards they produce as I can't see 450mm wide and could you please take a picture underneath so I can see the top of the leg fixing on theirs Paul They were custom size boards and I actually went for 500mm wide which is about 20inches. The cost was the next size up, so the 900mm x 400mm is listed as £28.21 so for a custom size of 900mm x 500mm was £38.11 each. The leg kits are £9.40 and you then need to soure the 34mm square timber for the legs themselves,these cost me around £10 for 8 x 1.1m lengths. I made the legs the correct height for Freemo. This is a picture of the inside of the end of the board before the leg is attached. This is with the leg in place Next add one or two M6 nut and bolt either side to secure it. Hope this helps, if you need more info then please let me know. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) They look good. How are you going to attach the legs at the modular (clampable) ends, as the bolt would seem to foul the clamping face?I'd also be concerned that if somebody clamped in the middle they could inadvertently damage the ply at the top of the leg piece where it doesn't have a support behind? Edited April 24, 2015 by Glorious NSE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 24, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) Thanks that answered it perfectly I agree with Martyn that you'll need a block in the middle to fill in so the clamp doesn't split the leg spacer though. Edited April 24, 2015 by PaulRhB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeaky Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 You are both correct, I plan to get some more 6mm ply and fill in the gap between the 2 end supports and then use an M8 bolt through the centre hole and a large washer on the other side. I have shown it with a coach bolt and a 30mm washer but it needs to be a 40mm washer or I could use another piece of ply and then the washer. This is the inside, you can see that the washer needs to be slightly bigger. Here I used a coach bolt, I've ordered some normal mushroom head bolts so it will be completely in the recess, thus allowing another board to mount flush against it. The other option is to counter sink the 6mm holes and use counter sink M6 bolts to make them flush. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Clever stuff, cool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeaky Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 A few items arrived today That lot should keep me busy..... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) If you want more of those scrap bales - you need a pair of miniature slip jointed pliers, or a pair of parallel jaw pliers like these , a roll of kitchen foil, and some spare time while sitting in front of the telly. First crumple some foil into a ball a little larger than your thumb-nail, then cube it using the pliers and Robert is one of your parents immediate siblings - much cheaper than the ones from the USA! Edited April 27, 2015 by shortliner 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 There's some nice scrap handling options around now - I went for this Kibri kit when I did mine as there wasn't lots of choice at the time, I think it scrubs up nicely - I've since found out TL Decal make a proper decal set for it to replace the "stickers" that I chose not to use, but it was too late by then as i'd weathered it up: There's a Chinese toy manufacturer now doing this one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-87-magnetic-crane-Materials-handling-vehicle-Alloy-model-/151657761188?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item234f81c9a4 Alternatively - something like this with the bucket replaced by a magnet?http://www.siku.de/en/sortiment/sikusuper/baustelle-krane/seilbagger.html 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeaky Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) Thanks Martyn, I have that very same Kibri also waiting to be built! What about this one? http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/326-6483 Jack, there is also a pair of parallel jaw pliers on my shopping list, the misses will go mad when she finds we haven't got any foil for the sunday roast Edited April 28, 2015 by squeaky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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