Glorious NSE Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 How easy is it to add buffers and replacement bogies for the two single with either ELH or Barber easy rider bogies? Mark Saunders Would of thought the hardest part is obtaining the correct bogies? Are they available under anything else? You won't need to remove the lamp irons and grabs on the other end of those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted March 23, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 23, 2017 The body moulding includes the buffer beams so not an option. I've had a rummage through my spares box and all the NEM coupler bars I have are too short. I investigated cutting those supplied and fitting shortened halves together in a brass tube but they would then be too large in diameter, they look correct as they come. Telescopic coupler bars? Graham How about cutting them shorter, but rejoining by carefully drilling out the centre with a 1mm bit and then using a piece of 1mm wire with epoxy glue? You'd probably only need to drill 3-5mm deep. Cheers, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofjamie Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 4 pairs arrived yesterday. Well impressed!! Great wagons at a reasonable price - gets my vote every time. ! The lamp irons at the wrong end is an irritation, but I'm prepared to put up with that considering the overall quality and price. Not a 'rivet counter' so can't really find anything else wrong with these wagons - look fantastic to me, a definite 9.5 out of 10. Be warned though, these wagons are EXCEPTIONALLY free running - if your layout is not exactly level these wagons will roll and roll and roll and roll until they hit the buffers!! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emdpowerrules Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 How about cutting them shorter, but rejoining by carefully drilling out the centre with a 1mm bit and then using a piece of 1mm wire with epoxy glue? You'd probably only need to drill 3-5mm deep. Cheers, Mick That would work, I have done similar with model aircraft kits but using steel pins. I've got seven sets, not sure my eyesight or sanity would survive drilling out 14 stub ends though! Graham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack374 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I know they're different wagons, but for anyone weathering their models, here are a few pictures of the interiors of some MWA box wagons at Preston yesterday in the consist of the 6H51 Hardendale Quarry to Guide Bridge Virtual Quarry: Thanks, Jack. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 The body moulding includes the buffer beams so not an option. I've had a rummage through my spares box and all the NEM coupler bars I have are too short. I investigated cutting those supplied and fitting shortened halves together in a brass tube but they would then be too large in diameter, they look correct as they come. Telescopic coupler bars? Graham Bachmann “pipe” coupling bars with short Kadees on the outer ends of the MJA twins produce reasonably close coupling on gentle curves. They might not work on tight curves, especially as the buffers aren’t sprung. One bogie out of the sixteen is badly warped and the wheelset drops out (see Graham’s post 289). It has been suggested that some parts are taken out of the moulds before they have cooled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robf Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I see that Dapol have announced another run, including GB Railfreight as well as more Freightliner. https://www.Dapol.co.uk/New-MJA-Models-Announced 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Hopefully they'll have the lamp iron at the right end this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Hi, I'm thinking about pre-ordering a rake of the GBRF MJAs for a future project, but first I need to know how many I can fit in my proposed sidings. So, how long are the twin sets when coupled together? Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Hi, I'm thinking about pre-ordering a rake of the GBRF MJAs for a future project, but first I need to know how many I can fit in my proposed sidings. So, how long are the twin sets when coupled together? Simon About 350mm for the pair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 About 350mm for the pair Thanks Martin, three pairs it will be! Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernMafia Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) Kernow newsletter reports another run of the HIAs, due Q3. Good news. Edited May 4, 2018 by SouthernMafia 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted May 4, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 4, 2018 Kernow newsletter reports another run of the HIAs, due Q3. Good news. And still keenly priced! Cheers, Mick 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Kernow newsletter reports another run of the HIAs, due Q3. Good news. Yes, planning to order a rake when I get my debit card back! Simon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) Kernow newsletter reports another run of the HIAs, due Q3. Good news. Just got several emails from Hattons saying they are due September / October 2018. No word on the GBRF MJA's though... Simon Edited May 16, 2018 by St. Simon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burtonoldbridgea Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 As per posts # 289 and # 306 I have the issue of a number (3 on a total of three sets) of bogie frames warping and the wheelsets dropping out. As a result of this and the fact that the items are sold out pretty much nationwide I contacted Dapol direct by email a couple of weeks ago initially (no response whatsoever) and then by phone today. Regrettably I drew a complete blank and was told to take them back to the wholesaler and get an exchange but when I pointed out that there were none available the tune changed to OK get a refund. It appears that Dapol neither carry spare bogies frames or wheel sets nor indeed intend to irrespective of the availability of their competitors on equivalent spare parts. Sadly and possibly through their own lack of communication with the marketplace they allege that they were unaware of the issue and no one had brought it to their attention. ( I did suggest that for good customer relations that they might read RMweb but they said that they do not see that as a normal means of communication!!! shame they might be a little more in tune with their marketplace.) Now my issue is not resolved - Dapol were also unable to provide me with the correct details of wheel size and wheel set point to points or indeed a resolution to the problem. The only minor crumb that there will be a "next batch" and before the next order they will see whether the issue warrants any spares! That depends on their team at Chirk deciding whether that it is necessary. As to when it might be - no idea was offered as to time frame save that the unit comes in complete and packaged and they simply receive and dispatch. A question to the forum however - is there an alternative bogie that is suitable - I appreciate that these are not quite the correct bogies and I guess my alternative is to replace the whole bogie frame pronto to enable use. Sorry for the long winded whinge but Dapol have proved that they can do a good job but through things like this and their inability to cover off and accept issues (thought that they had learned that long ago with those recurrent issues that they had) I suspect that they will loose market share and slip backwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Y25 bogies are available from Bachmann (but not what they describe as on the accessories section of website) best to phone them and ask for BDA bogies. Cambrian also produce them as a one part moulding. The HIA's are fitted with ELH built bogies and only have 4 brake blocks per bogie working on the inner face of the wheels. The number of brake blocks depends on the builder. Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burtonoldbridgea Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Y25 bogies are available from Bachmann (but not what they describe as on the accessories section of website) best to phone them and ask for BDA bogies. Cambrian also produce them as a one part moulding. The HIA's are fitted with ELH built bogies and only have 4 brake blocks per bogie working on the inner face of the wheels. The number of brake blocks depends on the builder. Mark Saunders Thanks Mark. Not sure if I made it clear (probably not!) its the MJA twins that I am having issues with - appreciate your very swift and useful response Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Thanks Mark. Not sure if I made it clear (probably not!) its the MJA twins that I am having issues with - appreciate your very swift and useful response My thoughts for the TF25 bogies are to cut the side frames off them and use an etched brass innerframe, there is one available from A1 models! I suspect they are also available from Bachmann but personally they do not seem as good as the Dapol ones or clarity of detail. Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack374 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I’d be careful with Bachmann’s TF25s as they are designed for smaller diameter wheel sets, so putting say 12mm wheels in may foul the brake block mouldings. Genesis do some TF25s in white metal: http://www.genesiskits.co.uk/shop/wagon-bogies/pair-of-tf25-bogies/ Failing that I’d maybe contact George Ansell from S-Kits and see if he does them...I know he does lots of other bogies so he may well do TF25s. Thanks, Jack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) Did Dapol put too large a wheel in their TF25 then? Every TF25 I've seen at work has had smaller wheels than a Y25 or NACO Axle Motion (Falcons, Autoballasters etc). They're 920mm so should scale to about 12mm Jo Edited May 17, 2018 by Steadfast Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burtonoldbridgea Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Thanks to all for their advice and guidance. Interestingly looking at the wheelsets on youtube video in noticed the following comment relating to the issue... "After waiting what seemed an eternity for these wagons I made a purchase of sixteen at the Dapol stand Alexander palace. Upon unpacking these wagons I noticed that three bogies wheel sets fell out and a panel in the wagon was missing. Dapol were not interested in helping me and it was a chance meeting with the MD on the Dapol stand at the Loughborough show in June that partially solved my problems. Couple that with the issues I had with the Class 68. I will think long and hard before making a further purchase at Dapol. Bachmann forgive me I will never betray you again. " My italics - so Dapol do know about the issue or someone does and I cannot help feeling that I agree with the writers sentiments. Maybe we will get a response from Chirk - or not. Enough said - on with the rectification work though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Hi, Thought you might like to know that I asked on the Dapol Facebook Page about when the GBRF MJAs were due and was told this week. Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted May 25, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25, 2018 Hi, Thought you might like to know that I asked on the Dapol Facebook Page about when the GBRF MJAs were due and was told this week. Simon My local model shop is expecting his delivery today. Cheers, MIck 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 In stock at Hattons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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