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    Thanks very much for your response, I found it very helpful. Yes, the coach is a compromise. ACE trains (and others) continue the tradition set by Bassett-Lowke and Exley for use with 12v three-rail coarse O operation. Coaches were frequently reduced in proportions because the sheer size of O gauge has always caused problems with space. A small to medium-sized indoor O gauge layout can accommodate a rake of 5/6 coaches of reduced length. Appropriate scale-length passenger stock would be impractical. This style of railway-modelling is referred to variously as classic Tinplate, revival tinplate, ready-to-run (RTR) classic O gauge etc. The locos are very accurate to a point but lack fine-detailing such as brakes etc and have coarse flanges in the vintage tradition. It's a niche style with a much smaller but still enthusiastic customer-base. They are made for regular, out-of-the-box running and can negotiate 24" curves. This particular coach is a very early RTR tinplate example with litho-printed detail somewhere between Hornby and Bassett-Lowke and has been superseded by later refinements making them more realistic but still retaining some litho-printed detail; O gauge cousins of Hornby Dublo tinplate. 'Modern antiques' if you like. I suspect that the asymmetrical seat pattern you describe will be the one I use for general use, my only problem now is seat colour. LNER tradition as far as corridor coaches was concerned was blue for first class and red for third. If you have any info on that I'd be very interested. Thanks again, you have provided an important part of the jigsaw. Popsicle 49
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    Hello, I am planning to detail some RTR O gauge LNER teak passenger stock (Gresley) made by ACE Trains which have no seats. One coach is labelled as an Open first yet I can find no record anywhere on the web that such a coach designation existed. Steve Banks' comprehensive database shows nothing in fact the search terms "LNER teak first class coach' yields nothing. The coach has two doors at each end and on one side and has the larger rectangular window with frames in the upper quarter on both sides so not like the more traditional large landscape plain windows on the corridor side and smaller portrait windows on the compartment side. Firstly did these coaches actually exist and, if they did, does anybody know the seat and table arrangements and colours please? many thanks, PD49
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    Event Name: NAROGG O GAUGE RUNNING MEET Classification: Other event Address: Harringworth Village Hall, Gretton Road,Harringworth, Northants NN17 3AD Day 1: SAT 30TH SEPTEMBER Opening times Day 1: 10.00-4.00 Prices: £5 adults under 16s free Disability access: Yes Car parking: Yes Organising body: NAROGG Organiser: R.Holderrj.holder@tiscali.co.uk Very friendly coarse O gauge 3-rail group, no membership needed. Bring your own locos and stock to run, vintage or modern, clockwork or electric or just come to watch and chat with fellow enthusiasts. Home-made snacks, cakes, tea and coffee available. Fantastic location next to the mighty Harringworth viaduct.Car parking. Bi-monthly. NB this is not an exhibition as such, the accent is on running. There is usually a bring and buy table. An opportunity for running coarse O gauge electric and clockwork trains on 3-rail track and chatting with fellow-enthusiasts. Vintage as well as modern trains can be run so Hornby tinplate, Leeds, Bonds and even Bassett-Lowke sometimes run. Revival tinplate such as Ace, Darstaed and Seven Mill also very welcome, we can also accommodate MTH and Atlas. Mostly models of steam trains but Diesel/electric welcome too. Informal group so as long as it's O gauge and has wheels it will be welcome. Two-rail running possible on 50” radius Atlas track. Fourtracks planned: (1) 27" (Atlas) & 36" radius (Merkur tinplate) and 50" radius (Atlas) (2) 27” Radius (Atlas) Even if you have no trains to bring, why not just come to enjoy these amazing trains running in a beautiful English village virtually underneath the eighty-two arch, 1.2 km Harringworth viaduct? A stunning location. A six-coach O gauge train measures about ten feet in length so they are amazing to watch. Close to the beautiful Rutland towns of Uppingham and Oakham. Our home-made cake is legendary, also freshly-prepared sandwiches and the usual drinks. Please bring any O gauge buildings, stations, signal boxes, water towers, bridges, signals & ancillaries or any other die-cast models which you would like to show. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT A MODEL RAILWAY EXHIBITION; THE ACCENT IS ON RUNNING TRAINS SO SCENERY ETC IS MINIMAL. PARKING FOR ABOUT 20 CARS IN THE VENUE'S OWN CAR PARK. FULL DISABLED FACILITIES. If it's got wheels and it's O gauge and you'd like to bring it along to run - we'd be delighted to see you. All-day home-made cakes, freshly-made sandwiches etc. Two trade tables plus bring and buy.
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    Event Name: NAROGG O GAUGE RUNNING MEET Classification: Other event Address: Harringworth Village Hall, Gretton Road, Harringworth, NOrthants NN173AD Day 1: 28th August Opening times Day 1: 4.00pm-8.30pm Prices: £3.00 Adults Disability access: Yes Car parking: Yes Organising body: Northants & Rutland O Gauge Group Organiser: R. Holderrj.holder@tiscali.co.uk Very friendly coarse O gauge 3-rail group, no membership needed. Bring your own locos and stock to run, vintage or modern, clockwork or electric or just come to watch and chat with fellow enthusiasts. Home-made snacks, cakes, tea and coffee available. Fantastic location next to the mighty Harringworth viaduct.Car parking. Bi-monthly. NB this is not an exhibition as such, the accent is on running. There is usually a bring and buy table. An opportunity for running coarse O gauge electric and clockwork trains on 3-rail track and chatting with fellow-enthusiasts. Vintage as well as modern trains can be run so Hornby tinplate, Leeds, Bonds and even Bassett-Lowke sometimes run. Revival tinplate such as Ace, Darstaed and Seven Mill also very welcome, we can also accommodate MTH and Atlas. Mostly models of steam trains but Diesel/electric welcome too. Informal group so as long as it's O gauge and has wheels it will be welcome. Two-rail running possible on 50” radius Atlas track. Fourtracks planned: (1) 27" (Atlas) & 36" radius (Merkur tinplate) and 50" radius (Atlas) (2) 27” Radius (Atlas) Even if you have no trains to bring, why not just come to enjoy these amazing trains running in a beautiful English village virtually underneath the eighty-two arch, 1.2 km Harringworth viaduct? A stunning location. A six-coach O gauge train measures about ten feet in length so they are amazing to watch. Close to the beautiful Rutland towns of Uppingham and Oakham. Our home-made cake is legendary, also freshly-prepared sandwiches and the usual drinks. Please bring any O gauge buildings, stations, signal boxes, water towers, bridges, signals & ancillaries or any other die-cast models which you would like to show. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT A MODEL RAILWAY EXHIBITION; THE ACCENT IS ON RUNNING TRAINS SO SCENERY ETC IS MINIMAL. PARKING FOR ABOUT 20 CARS IN THE VENUE'S OWN CAR PARK. FULL DISABLED FACILITIES. Loose, informal theme for this meeting is vintage tinplate but our ‘themes’ are not proscriptive so if you have something you’re itching to run, please bring it even if it’s a pink Mongolian State Railways loco that runs on camel droppings
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    Event Name: COARSE O GAUGE RUNNING MEET Classification: Other event Address: HARRINGWORTH VILLAGE HALL, GRETTON ROAD, HARRINGWORTH, NORTHANTS NN17 3AD Day 1: 26 JUNE 2017 Opening times Day 1: 4.30 - 8.30 Prices: £3.00 ADULTS KIDS FREE Disability access: Yes Car parking: Yes Website: https://m.facebook.com/northantsandrutlandOgauge/?locale2=en_GB Organising body: NAROGG Organiser: Richard Holder 07970 965546 rj.holder@tiscali.co.uk Very friendly coarse O gauge 3-rail group, no membership needed. Bring your own locos and stock to run, vintage or modern, clockwork or electric or just come to watch and chat with fellow enthusiasts. Home-made snacks, cakes, tea and coffee available. Fantastic location next to the mighty Harringworth viaduct.Car parking.Bi-monthly.NB this is not an exhibition as such, the accent is on running. There is usually a bring and buy table. An opportunity for running coarse O gauge electric and clockwork trains on 3-rail track and chatting with fellow-enthusiasts. Vintage as well as modern trains can be run so Hornby tinplate, Leeds, Bonds and even Bassett-Lowke sometimes run.Revival tinplate such as Ace, Darstaed and Seven Mill also very welcome, we can also accommodate MTH and Atlas. Mostly models of steam trains but Diesel/electric welcome too. Informal group so as long as it's O gauge and has wheels it will be welcome. Two-rail running possible on 50” radius Atlas track. Fourtracks planned: (1) 27" (Atlas) & 36" radius (Merkur tinplate) and 50" radius (Atlas) (2) 27” Radius (Atlas) Even if you have no trains to bring, why not just come to enjoy these amazing trains running in a beautiful English village virtually underneath the eighty-two arch, 1.2 km Harringworth viaduct? A stunning location. A six-coach O gauge train measures about ten feet in length so they are amazing to watch. Close to the beautiful Rutland towns of Uppingham and Oakham. Our home-made cake is legendary, also freshly-prepared sandwiches and the usual drinks. Please bring any O gauge buildings, stations, signal boxes, water towers, bridges, signals & ancillaries or any other die-cast models which you would like to show. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT A MODEL RAILWAY EXHIBITION; THE ACCENT IS ON RUNNING TRAINS SO SCENERY ETC IS MINIMAL. PARKING FOR ABOUT 20 CARS IN THE VENUE'S OWN CAR PARK. FULL DISABLED FACILITIES. Loose, informal theme for this meeting is GWR or BR Western Region but our ‘themes’ are not proscriptive so if you have something you’re itching to run, please bring it even if it’s a pink Mongolian State Railways loco that runs on camel droppings!
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    Event Name: NORTHANTS & RUTLAND COARSE O GAUGE RUNNING MEET Classification: Other event Address: HARRINGWORTH VILLAGE HALL, GRETTON ROAD, HARRINGWORTH, NORTHANTS NN17 3AD Day 1: 24 APRIL Opening times Day 1: 4.00pm Prices: 3.00 Adults, under-16s free Disability access: Yes Car parking: Yes Organising body: NORTHANTS & RUTLAND O GAUGE GROUP Organiser: RICHARD HOLDER, PAUL LUMSDON Very friendly coarse O gauge 3-rail group, no membership needed. Bring your own locos and stock to run, vintage or modern, clockwork or electric or just come to watch and chat with fellow enthusiasts. Please bring your O gauge buildings and relevant models. Home-made snacks, cakes, tea and coffee available. Fantastic location next to the mighty Harringworth viaduct.Car parking.Bi-monthly.NB this is not an exhibition as such, the accent is on running. Two trade-stands and a bring and buy table. An opportunity for running coarse O gauge electric and clockwork trains on 3-rail track and chatting with fellow-enthusiasts..STOP PRESS! 2-RAIL RUNNING ON 50” RADIUS TRACK NOW POSSIBLE. Vintage as well as modern trains can be run so Hornby tinplate, Leeds, Bonds and even Bassett-Lowke sometimes run.Revival tinplate such as Ace, Darstaed and Seven Mill also very welcome, we can also accommodate MTH and Atlas. Mostly models of steam trains but Diesel/electric welcome too. Informal group so as long as it's O gauge and has wheels it will be welcome. Two-rail runningpossible on 50” radius Atlas track. Fourtracks planned: (1) 27" (Atlas) & 36" radius (Merkur tinplate) and 50" radius (Atlas) (2) 27” Radius (Atlas) Even if you have no trains to bring, why not just come to enjoy these amazing trains running in a beautiful English village virtually underneath the eighty-two arch, 1.2 km Harringworth viaduct? A stunning location. A six-coach O gauge train measures about ten feet in length so they are amazing to watch. Close to the beautiful Rutland towns of Uppingham and Oakham. Our home-made cake is legendary, also freshly-prepared sandwiches and the usual drinks. Please bring any O gauge buildings, stations, signal boxes, water towers, bridges, signals & ancillaries or any other die-cast models which you would like to show. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT A MODEL RAILWAY EXHIBITION; THE ACCENT IS ON RUNNING TRAINS SO SCENERY ETC IS MINIMAL. PARKING FOR ABOUT 20 CARS IN THE VENUE'S OWN CAR PARK. FULL DISABLED FACILITIES. Contact rj.holder@tiscali.co.uk for further details
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    Event Name: NORTHANTS & RUTLAND COARSE O GAUGE RUNNING MEET Classification: Other event Address: HARRINGWORTH VILLAGE HALL, GRETTON RD, HARRINGWORTH, NORTHANTS NN17 3AD Day 1: 27 FEBRUARY 2017 Opening times Day 1: 4.00PM Prices: ADULTS £3 CHILDREN FREE Disability access: Yes Car parking: Yes Organising body: NORTHANTS & RUTLAND O GAUGE GROUP Organiser: RICHARD HOLDER 07970 965546rj.holder@tiscali.co.uk Coarse O gauge 3-rail group, no membership needed. Bring your own locos and stock to run, vintage or modern, clockwork or electric or just come to watch and chat with fellow enthusiasts. Hornby & Bassett-Lowke very welcome. Please bring your O gauge buildings and relevant models. Home-made snacks, cakes, tea and coffee available. Fantastic location next to the mighty Harringworth viaduct.Car parking.Bi-monthly.NB this is not an exhibition as such, the accent is on running.2 trade stands and a bring and buy table. An opportunity for running coarse O gauge electric and clockwork trains on 3-rail track.Vintage as well as modern trains can be run so Hornby tinplate and even Bassett-Lowke may run.Revival tinplate such as Ace, Darstaed and Seven Mill also very welcome, we can also accommodate MTH. Mostly models of steam trains but Diesel/electric welcome too. Informal group so as long as it's O gauge and has wheels it will be welcome.We hope to make it possible to run 2-rail at our February 27. Fourtracks planned: (1) 27" (Atlas) & 36" radius (Merkur tinplate) and 50" radius (Atlas) (2) 27” Radius (Atlas) Even if you have no trains to bring, why not just come to enjoy these amazing trains running in a beautiful English village virtually underneath the eighty-two arch, 1.2 km Harringworth viaduct? A stunning location. A six-coach O gauge train measures about ten feet in length so they are amazing to watch. Close to the beautiful Rutland towns of Uppingham and Oakham. Home-made snacks and beverages. Please bring any O gauge buildings, water towers, bridges, signals & ancillaries or any other models which you would like to show PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT A MODEL RAILWAY EXHIBITION; THE ACCENT IS ON THE TRAINS SO SCENERY ETC IS MINIMAL. PARKING FOR ABOUT 20 CARS IN THE VENUE's OWN CAR PARK.
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    Thanks Felix but I find that translation intriguing since the literal one comes out as 'railway museum'. Am I making the mistake of being too literal? The online translation service I use recognises 'Eisenbahn Museum' but not 'Eisenbahnmuseum'. Not quibbling, just interested in languages. Thanks P49
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    Thanks to all of you who replied to my question, you've saved me from blowing a lot of money as these 12237s fetch high prices. It would seem pointless to have one of these thundering round my layout if it never ever ran in those colours. I have this loco in green but also in the dark red - just out of interest, did it run in the red livery and was it it any way significant? Ta, P49
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    Hi, The Minitrix 12237 version of the S3/6 loco comes in blue & cream Rheingold livery. The Manvell website uses the term 'eisenbahnmuseum' in its brief description. Does anybody know whether the loco actually ran in regular service in that livery or was it so-painted just as a railway museum exhibit? Thanks, P49
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