Gronk619's 7mm Easybuild Dia 92 TSO

Gronk619's 7mm Easybuild Dia 92 TSO

Postby gronk619 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:41 pm

Hello All,

I have been meaning to start an on my WB (Picnic Table) thread for a couple of years on different forums. I finally decided the time has come as this may be a method of completing rather than just starting models. The only problem I can see is that once I start a modeling session I tend to get carried away, so progress may seem a little choppy at times.

Anyway, I am nearing completion of an Easybuild Class 129 Cravens Diesel Parcels Unit, which will be fitted with DCC sound and Lights when complete.

Sorry for the pic quality, I really must get around to building a little diorama as a backdrop.
Progress so far......

I painted the Cabs and sides before I glued them together as I thought that painting after construction would be a pain.
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The drivers desk in position at one end,
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A couple of shots of the Whitemetal underframe parts glued to the floor, minor details like exhaust pipes and conduit to be added later ( may not be perfect but photo's of 129's are few and far between
especially underframes...
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The completed body placed onto the Chassis for a quick looksee, the wiring will be explained later when I light the other end.
Finished this end then remembered that I should have taken a couple of photo's
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The completed bogies with wiper pickups added to the trailing wheels
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That's it for now, I am awaiting a Loksound chip from DC Kits until then progress will be slow as it really is just a case of finishing now.
Tuesday is a club running night so a Lenz gold may have to go in for a test run though.. :)


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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Easybuild 129 DPU

Postby Brian Daniels » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:53 pm

Looks good Andy, yet another 7mm modeller on here :P

What else have you got or are you just starting on the slippery slope of 7mm diesels.
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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Easybuild 129 DPU

Postby gronk619 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:13 pm

Hi Brian,

I have built 7mm diesels on and off for a few years now as and when time and cash allowed, pretty concurrently with 7mm steam aswell.

The current built fleet consists of a Bacchman 03, MMP 08 and an RJH class 31, my pride and joy being my first kit 20 years ago at the ripe old age of 16.
I have built more in this time, mainly RJH but they have all been sold in the past.

The current kit pile was getting out of hand and so I am trying to start not buying but building for a while. Hopefully the future will see
an MMP class 47 that has been maturing for at least 14 years, an MMP class 13, Westdale bubble car and a couple of RJH's, class 45 and 55, although with the
JLTRT Deltic due soon I can see this one ending up on Ebay.

Added to this are a half dozen Easybuild Mk1's in various stages and a slowly building wagon fleet, not to mention an even bigger pile of LNER steam locos and stock.

I can see this thread taking quite some time to complete, pretty much like most of my kits then really... :)

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P.S., i'm still itching for that JLTRT clas 45 after seeing yours the other week, however I should really build something else from the pile first.
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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Easybuild 129 DPU

Postby gronk619 » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:06 pm

Today's Progress..

I have now added the head and tail marker lights at each end of the cab. This had caused a headache initially as they are both in the same housing.
I quite liked the idea of a bi-colour LED, however the yellow in the yellow / red ones was a little too much.

The method I have used is to use a 3mm warm white LED for the lens, filed flat and frosted by using fine wet and dry. Behind this is glued a 5mm red LED
in such a way as the red light shines through the clear housing of the white one. The whole area under the drivers desk is then turned into a couple of lightboxes as can be seen in the photographs.

At the moment I have wired the headlights of one end with the taillights of the other. I thought of using four function outputs to do this but I will be using a loksound HO chip which only
has 4 outputs and I rather fancy installing cab lighting to the drivers end too.

Here are the photo's, the intensity of the light may not seem too clever at the moment, I was using a 9v battery to test and will control brightness using the decoder output rather than resistors.


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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Easybuild 129 DPU

Postby Ressaldar » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:23 pm

Hi Andy,

some nice work going on there, keep it up.

How are you finding joining the body parts together, there have been reports elsewhere on the forum about bonding difficulties, what adhesive are you using?

As Brian said, nice to have another 7mm man aboard.

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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Easybuild 129 DPU

Postby gronk619 » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:29 pm

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the encouraging words.

I have ended up using araldite for the joins between the cast and the extruded parts. ie the Cabs and sides.
for the rest of the joins, I have tried ABS solvent as per the Mk1 coaches and this has worked most of the time. Failing that it's back to the
araldite or Zap super glue.

I have also been advised to try a small piece of microstrip on the inside of the join before using ABS solvent, however I had got a bit too far to try
this technique. I may get a chance on the Cravens 2 car class 105 when funds allow though.

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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Easybuild 129 DPU

Postby Brian Daniels » Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:12 pm

Nice work on the lights Andy but I am just thinking out aloud here so to speak but when these were around were we not still using oil lamps on the back of units? Or did these get converted to duel bulbs?

Looks a nice "easy" kit to do though :lol:
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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Easybuild 129 DPU

Postby gronk619 » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:36 pm

Hi Brian,

Yes, the Easybuild's are easy to build, I managed the last TSO I did in 4 days less the painting.

As for the head and tail lights, I had the same thoughts and as I could find no evidence for the fitting (or not) of the the dual bulbs, I decided to do it anyway
as an experiment for the 105 when I get round to it. If I find out that they did not have them It's only a case of unsoldering 4 wires and adding a socket for tail lamp power.

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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Easybuild 129 DPU

Postby DavidB » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:58 am

gronk619 wrote:Yes, the Easybuild's are easy to build, I managed the last TSO I did in 4 days less the painting.

Hi Andy - Is there any chance you can post some pictures of the TSO and pass on some tips about painting the window frames? I'm about to start work on an Easybuild RB(R) and my biggest concern is how to get a good finish on the moulded window frames. I've read Shaun's instructions, but I'm still worried that I'll bodge the painting, just like I used to with 4mm Kitmaster Mark 1s which used the same solution for flush glazed windows. Really appreciate any advice you can share.

Many thanks

David

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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Easybuild 129 DPU

Postby onslaught832 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:34 pm

Hi Andy :wave , nice to see another 7mm diesel modeler on the forum, nice work on the 129 too :clap
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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Easybuild 129 DPU

Postby gronk619 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:23 pm

Hi David,

Good to hear from somebody else building Easybuilds. I will try to post some pics of the TSO in the next few days, however I am organising my Model engineering clubs stand at Ally Pally this weekend so time could be short.

However I have another TSO to build, so I may make this the next project OMWB. As for the windows, I tried the suggested method the first time and got reasonable results, although I did end up painting around the frames with a fine brush. On the next coach I just got a fine brush and just painted the frames without masking.

The only other departure from the instructions that I am considering is painting the door hinges on the fret and not adding them until after painting the body sides. As my coaches are all B/G masking the line between the Grey and Blue is made quite difficult by the top row of hinges. This would also be a problem with Blood and Custard I would have thought.

Thanks Phill,

It's quite good knowing that there are quite a few 7mm diesel modellers about, and I think the numbers are growing all the time...

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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Easybuild 129 DPU

Postby gronk619 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:15 pm

Today's Progress has been a tad slow, I had been trying to get the unit finished so that I could take it for a run at the club this evening. However the Volvo failed it's MOT with flying colours so I am without car for a day or two :(

Still I have managed to get the wiring completed and a Lenz gold decoder fitted for test purposes before the sound chip arrives.

The first two pictures show the motor and trailing bogies. I have had to fit connectors to the bogies so as to facilitate their removal as I need to get to three bolts underneath to remove the roof. the instructions suggest a removable floor with a fixed roof however with the lighting installed I decided to make the roof removable instead, a decision I may regret if I cannot make a good join between cab fronts and roof....

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The following pic shows the wiring internally, along with the 'test' decoder.

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Finally here is a quick look at the completed model, now just awaiting windscreen wipers, Door bars and Bufferbeam detail.
I still haven't decided how much weathering will be required, not my strong point but I have to learn the techniques someday.

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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB 21T Coal Hoppers

Postby gronk619 » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:51 am

Morning All,

One for David B here, a few photos of my TSO and BCK coaches.
These coaches do not yet have interiors as I am waiting until I have a few to do. The BSK was my first Easybuild and the TSO riding on B4 bogies was my second. I have tried to get a couple of close ups of the window frames, I like the look of the external ones although the internal frames are easier and quite a few Mk1's did have these into the Blue/Grey period and beyond.

As for my WB the only thing achieved in the last couple of days has been the start of a pair of Parkside 21T Coal Hoppers.
I must say that these kits are really simple to put together, I have 6 built now with another 7 to go after these 2.

I intend to do some as TOPS code HTO and others as HOP21's as they would look good behind anything from my BR Black K1 mogul up to most of my Blue era diesels. A truly versatile and useful kit covering a wide timescale and geographical area, thanks parkside.

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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Easybuild 129 DPU

Postby Phil » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:09 am

Brian Daniels wrote:Nice work on the lights Andy but I am just thinking out aloud here so to speak but when these were around were we not still using oil lamps on the back of units? Or did these get converted to duel bulbs?

Looks a nice "easy" kit to do though :lol:



Only just dropped on this thread.

Gronk - I am going to agree with Brian here and say that these DPUs would almost certainly have been withdrawn from use by the time BR got round to using the unit's own lights as tail lights. I reckon it'd be oil lamps to the end mate.


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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Easybuild 129 DPU

Postby DavidB » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:13 am

Wow Andy - those Mark 1s are great :thup ! You've done a first class job with both models (they look even better than the examples on Shaun's website) - and the painted frames look superb. So it can be done! You've really inspired me to get to work on my RB(R). Many thanks for sharing - much appreciated!

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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB 21T Coal Hoppers

Postby lancer1027 » Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:42 pm

gronk619 wrote:Morning All,

One for David B here, a few photos of my TSO and BCK coaches.
These coaches do not yet have interiors as I am waiting until I have a few to do. The BSK was my first Easybuild and the TSO riding on B4 bogies was my second. I have tried to get a couple of close ups of the window frames, I like the look of the external ones although the internal frames are easier and quite a few Mk1's did have these into the Blue/Grey period and beyond.

As for my WB the only thing achieved in the last couple of days has been the start of a pair of Parkside 21T Coal Hoppers.
I must say that these kits are really simple to put together, I have 6 built now with another 7 to go after these 2.

I intend to do some as TOPS code HTO and others as HOP21's as they would look good behind anything from my BR Black K1 mogul up to most of my Blue era diesels. A truly versatile and useful kit covering a wide timescale and geographical area, thanks parkside.

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Hi Andy. Welcome :thup . Again its nice to see another 7mm modeller on here. The 129 looks good, nice to see progress reports/pics , keep em coming. As for the mk1's there great. youve done a great job on those. I've only built westdale coaches in the past ( as can be seen on my workbench) so never built easybuild but always looked at their stuff and wondered. How easy are they to build and how easy to put an interior in after its built and painted :?: .
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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Easybuild 129 DPU

Postby gronk619 » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:22 pm

Hi Phil,

Thanks for dropping in and taking the time, when I fit the sound chip I am going to unwire the red LED's and put a socket under the ends for an LED Taillight. I am
still pleased I did it as I now know it will work for the 105 I am going to build which I know did have the dual markers.

David,

Go for it, they really are a doddle to build and give a very good looking coach at the end,

Rob,

thanks for the kind words, hopefully when I have all of the parts together, I will have them OMWB so that you can see how easy the interiors are.

By the way does anyone know the correct seat colours for the mid 80'? I seem to recall seeing Green or Blue moquette for seconds and orange for firsts although I kmay be getting these muddled with MkII and 3's.


Cheers for now.

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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Easybuild 129 DPU

Postby OgaugeJB » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:35 pm

Hoorah !

More 7mm modeling ! :D

All looking good. :thup

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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Easybuild Coach Interiors

Postby gronk619 » Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:22 pm

well, after a weekend with no modelling I have finally got back into the swing of things today.

The interior kits arrived for the coaches over the weekend and so I decided to
finish the BCK as I now have the corridor fronts and the Brake end cage.

Only a few photos to show so far, the compartment dividers were cut and painted a long time ago as were the seats.

One of the compartment etches showing the seperate doors which can be made open, closed or anywhere in between.
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The first and second class comp's made up and ready for a clean and a paint.
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A second class seat and bulkhead waiting to be added.
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Finally a couple of images of the part completed interior.

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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Completed BSK Interior

Postby gronk619 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:28 am

Good Morning all,

Here are a few pics of the now completed interior of the Easybuild BSK. Also included are a couple of exterior shots and also the TSO on our club test track.

I managed to finally get to the club and have now run the 129 and must say that it runs as smoothly as one would expect from an Easybuild kit.

Sadly work is now beginning to get in the way of modeling, however I will soon start a Diagram 92 TSO and intend to document that on here from start to finish.

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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Completed BSK Interior

Postby Bob-65B » Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:52 am

Great coaches Andy. You've mixed up your BSK with the BCK - That's a BCK interior in the photo's labelled BSK above!

What details are you after for the exterior glazing frames?

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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Completed BCK Interior

Postby gronk619 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:42 pm

Hi Bob,

Thanks for spotting that one, I have got my BSK and BCK mixed up. The coach is indeed a BCK.

I will edit the title as appropriate.

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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Completed BCK Interior

Postby AndyCox70 » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:30 pm

Looks very nice, maybe you could add some nice people and a driver. But I wonder how you could get him to be in the correct end for the direction of travel. I think if he was inflatable and you could make a little hydralic pump to infated or deflate the correct driver. Simple to control by DDC I would think.
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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Completed BCK Interior

Postby SimonME46 » Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:01 am

AndyCox70 wrote:Looks very nice, maybe you could add some nice people and a driver. But I wonder how you could get him to be in the correct end for the direction of travel. I think if he was inflatable and you could make a little hydralic pump to infated or deflate the correct driver. Simple to control by DDC I would think.

I like your thinking. I've been pondering this for my Derby Lightweight - thinking of having a fine bit of wire through his head, servo on it's side in the roof just activate him out of the way (ie hidden up in the roof)?
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Re: Gronk619's 7mm WB Completed BCK Interior

Postby AndyCox70 » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:31 pm

Thinking on this again, maybe a reasonable effect could be achived with a little lighting, If you had a driver at each end and used internal directional lighting to highlight the correct one?
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