Tretton 3mm Scale - Updated with new pics

Tretton 3mm Scale - Updated with new pics

Postby 3millmodeller » Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:02 pm

After reading many posts on this forum, I thought I would share with everyone my current layout-in-progress. As you can probably guess the layout is 3mm scale and fits very well into my small spare room. One of the advantages of 3mm is the amount of layout one can build without compromising too much on the size of the models. The background on this project is that this layout was aquired in an incomplete state when I purchased a large amount of Triang TT components.

The idea at the time of purchase was I have now obtained all the stock and triang track I could ever need so no more buying of models is necessary! Suffice to say that was a bit optimistic. I did not take a lot of pictures of the before and inital planning stages as I had not found this forum but will update progress from now on if there is sufficent interest.

The original layout was a simple terminus to loop with 3 platform faces and a small yard. The track was a mixture of 30 year old Wrenn and Gem pointwork with GEM flexible track and fitted neatly in the 13 by 10 foot downstairs spare room. Consequently the age and fragile nature track construction meant that in order to get reliable operation all of the pointwork has had to be replaced with PECO H0m components.

The picture below was taken to show the previous owner what had happened to his layout before all the GEM pointwork was replaced so sould give an idea of the track plan...
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Currently, the amended layout looks like this.

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In terms of operation the layout will become a continious run around the walls with a single track mainline through platform face 2, an avoiding line through the centre road, parcels and brach terminus in platform 1. For added interest there is also a second branch line from the station running parellel with the main line to give the illusion of double track enabling the main and branch trains to run at the same time. The fiddle yard will be desiged to incorpate a return loop so the final operation of the the station itself can become a through station, through station and branch terminus or terminus only.

The current most difficult problem is finding a name for it and geographic locationas this was supposed to be a BR(S) layout except I have managed to collect far to many WR tank locos....i guess somwhere in the west country...perhaps..
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Re: 3mm in the spare room

Postby Jack » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:54 pm

Looks interesting! TT always struck as the ideal scale compromise.

Given your locos must be 45+ years old, how do they run??? Was looking at some Euro TT stuff the other day, the quality looks good, its just a shame they don't do British outline.
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Re: 3mm in the spare room

Postby MartinWales » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:21 pm

Nice work sir!

Apart from EM I also work in 14.2mm (the 3mil equivelent of P4/S4)and find it a liberating experience not relying on RTR all the time-a little shunting yard is underway with a larger project hopefully following on!
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Re: 3mm in the spare room

Postby 3millmodeller » Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:57 am

Most of the 3mm locos I have run very well and some of them are pretty exceptional. I find that the Triang TT runs much better than my Triang 00 for some reason. I was also fortunate in that most of the standard triang locos are new old stock or have been modified by a well known local model engineer. This is a bloke who balanced armatures and shimmed motors to get an ideal mesh so these run like modern stock. The best strategy for improving the running of other locos has been a good dose of WD40 and adjusting back to backs and added weight with a white metal body kit.

MartinWales wrote:Nice work sir!

Apart from EM I also work in 14.2mm (the 3mil equivelent of P4/S4)and find it a liberating experience not relying on RTR all the time-a little shunting yard is underway with a larger project hopefully following on!


Agree wholehartedly with this, not being able to go to the model shop and get the latest Bachmann release is pretty liberating, especially for the wallet. This is the first layout I have constructed in 20 years and it is great to return to modelling to do something a bit different.

Thought I would follow up with some more progress shots...
The fiddle yard with Triang track in evidence, the orignal layout plan was for all triang track but abandoned that idea quickly enough...


Open baseboards across the window...thought I would try the L gider construction and now wish I had done the rest of the layout that way
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And for those of us who like chipboard wasteland shots...a scratchbuilt 4f (by unknown builder) on a coal train
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Re: 3mm in the spare room

Postby 3millmodeller » Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:02 pm

Time for a quick update as I can now run all the way round the room. I have also decided to ditch the Triang track in the fiddle yard as I would like my trains to run properly all the way round the layout and not just on the new track!

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Finally, latest addition to the fleet, a very nicley details Triang MN cunningly disguised as a West Country..could not resist the lovely brake gear and it runs as good as it looks
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Re: 3mm in the spare room

Postby Ravenser » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:49 pm

Looking very nice.

By the way , the 3mm Bilteezi sheets are still available from Freestone Model Accessories see Rly Modeller advert) and with some work to cut out and glaze windows, laminate /back with strong card etc can be made to look good.

You may want to join the 3mm Society as they have an excellent range of products including a large range of rather nice wagon kits
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Re: 3mm in the spare room

Postby 3millmodeller » Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:48 pm

The old bilteezi kits came with the inital collection when I bought it and constructing them was the the first step to building a proper layout in 20+ years and pleased with how they came out will follow up though as I could do with extending the station building a little. I am also thinking about using the scalescene downloadable buildings reduced from 4mm to 3mm for further work and possibly to build a small 3mm exhibition layout for non-triang stuff to run on to promote the scale over here.

I joined the 3mm society as soon as I had the stuff and was lucky the amoungst all the bits and pieces came 10 years worth of mixed traffic magazines...have not tried a wagon kit yet but one is in the post on the way here 8). Currently the limit of my scale modelling has been reconstructing and detailing white metal loco kits so have to ease into it a little.
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Re: 3mm in the spare room

Postby winterbournecm » Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:26 am

Hi there

Oh for the joys of a room within the house - you're so lucky! Missus banished me into the garage! Still improvement on the loft I suppose. The layout is coming along nicely.

Lovely scope for your viaduct too.
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Re: 3mm in the spare room

Postby 3millmodeller » Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:09 am

Thanks mate, It is quite a luxury to take over a room inside, especially when the door is open I have a good view of the TV, it is the only room with downlights installed and the walls are a nice light blue. These things help when you actually build the house though I did not intent to have the whole room then.

I am plannaing an enbankment and smaller bridge over the area as it is nice to have a natural backdrop but a viaduct would work well as it would not stop the light coming in from the window. Now have to finish that wagon kit and lay some more track..
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Tretton Junct - 3mm updated

Postby 3millmodeller » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:19 am

Work is cracking on with the 3mm layout despite waiting for more track and other components to arrive. In the meantime I have finally finished the wiring for the point motors in the staion area as I was getting tired of the digitally operated points with motors on the bottom :roll: . A major change was the replacement of the old GEM lever frames that were no longer suitable for the PECO points and these were changed to the contemporay Triang electric version. I considered route setting diodes and push to make switches but pulling the levers is far more fun.



Also changed is the track layout at the end to provide an extra passing loop through the station, while it might have been better to replace the 3 GEM points and simplify the layout this way I can still run around trains independently and besides the closest point will be in the 'hidden' section..
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Re: Tretton Junct - 3mm updated

Postby 3millmodeller » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:03 am

Minor update, after looking at that picture above of the new station layout I had to fix the alignment of the trackwork :shock: , some things you just do not notice at the time!
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Re: Tretton Junct - 3mm updated

Postby pirouets » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:59 am

I've often thought that if I could model in 3mm rather than 2mm I would. To much invested in 2mm to swap these days, but will follow this with interest.
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Re: Tretton Junct - 3mm updated

Postby custodian » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:38 am

Encouraging stuff. I have looked at the extensive range of German models that seem to be around very cheaply on ebay and elsewhere from TT manufacturers such as Zeuke, Tillig and others.
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Re: Tretton Junct - 3mm updated

Postby 3millmodeller » Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:28 am

Thought I would update all on the progress of my layout. A number of changes have taken place, most notably a complete reworking of the fiddle yard as the ealier arrangment with triang track was just not workable.

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So now we have 3 storage loops, plus a standard fiddle yard with Y junction for the main and branch lines...

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The scenic development has started but being a bit of a traditionalist and not having built any scenery for 20 years it is back to the old wire mesh. So I guess a bit of imagination is to get the full impact of the hill side areas.

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Having tried the L girder open frame construction technique I thought a viaduct would suit the area, plust I managed to aquire half a dozen builder plus card bridge kits that were ripe for conversion despite being 4mm scale.

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Now to get started on the plaster bandage to cover the mesh and to find something local that resembles the hanging basket liner for grass!
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Re: Now the scenery starts - Tretton 3mm new pics

Postby 3millmodeller » Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:40 am

After a bit of fiddling with scenic products the whole thing is beginning to look more like a railway....
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Re: Now the scenery starts - Tretton 3mm new pics

Postby Ravenser » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:35 am

This is starting to look good
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Re: Now the scenery starts - Tretton 3mm new pics

Postby 3millmodeller » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:52 am

Thanks mate, will look much better with ballast thought but that can wait until next weekend :) Incidentally, the goods shed/water towerbase and hut all came from the same 4mm Metcalf(?) goods shed I found in the bottom of the cupbard. Amazing what a little trimming down can do.
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Re: Now the scenery starts - Tretton 3mm new pics

Postby 3millmodeller » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:01 am

Thought it was time to post a quick update. Cortesy of ebay so rather nice 3mm buildings arrived and these have been added to the layout. I am also starting to setle on a proper period and it will be c1966-1973. Of course I will have to limit the steam eara buying but sometimes you cannot resist.
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Re: Now the scenery starts - Tretton 3mm new pics

Postby 3millmodeller » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:06 am

Few more of the station area and high street.

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Re: Tretton 3mm Scale - Updated with new pics

Postby taybridge » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:54 am

Great progress. I hope I can keep up momentum like this. Good job!
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Re: Tretton 3mm Scale - Updated with new pics

Postby 3millmodeller » Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:04 am

taybridge wrote:Great progress. I hope I can keep up momentum like this. Good job!


Been going a little while but I get sidetracked as I have to build most of it . At least with 00 or N you can go to the model shop buy RTR stock so you have no excuse :wink: . Although just taken delivery of a dozen triang mk1s repainted blue/grey, now all I need are the locos!
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Re: Tretton 3mm Scale - Updated with new pics

Postby pirouets » Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:05 am

Its progressing nicely. I see you have settled on the same era i've just decided on. What range of diesels do you have for that? I noticed the 31, and in the last picture there was one I could not quite identify.
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Re: Tretton 3mm Scale - Updated with new pics

Postby 3millmodeller » Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:13 am

Well, to be honest I am a bit short on appropriate motive power at the moment. We have half a dozen Triang 31s, 2 BEC class 47s, 1 class 33.
For steamers I am just going to use a couple of Brits, 4mt tank and standard 5, should be just right up to '68.

I am hoping to get started on a Western and Warship kit before going into anything more involved. There is a surprisingly a decent range of 3mm diesels avaliable, provided you can build etched brass kits. Just need a little more expereince before tackling something like that.
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Re: Tretton 3mm Scale - Updated with new pics

Postby 3millmodeller » Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:45 am

Just managed to procure a 3mm Class 50 from ebay, fits in very well to the 'blue' era of the layout.
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Re: Tretton 3mm Scale - Updated with new pics

Postby Ravenser » Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:46 pm

Didn't know anyone had ever done a 50 in 3mm . More details please - does this look kit built or scratchbuilt?
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