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Firsty entry and some thoughts


Kelly

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So, with putting other plans on the back burner after a recent move I've started to think on what is more feasable in the shorter time scale compared to the other ideas I've had (or Natalie's had).

 

So with that in mind I've decided to start looking into a layout based upon the woolwich dockyard area.

 

Why Woolwich Dockyard? well I was born in Woolwich and grew up in Barnehurst, so have an affinity with the area. Mostly I recall Networkers over EPBs as I wasn't relaly paying attention to trains back then! computer games and aviation modelling had my eye far more (still do to some extent). But I've always loved looking into the history of where I and my family grew up. I'd use the North Kent lines almost daily in the late 90s and they were the only option if going further than Bromley or Eltham usually. In my final year at University in London, I lived in Woolwich, not far from Woolwich Dockyard station, so Networkers and other traffic were familiar sights.

 

For ease of stock buying/costs initially I think it'll be easiest to go with the late 1980s to early 1990s period when 4-EPBs/2-EPBs were common and 465/466 were still in testing. So a couple of 4EPBs and a single 465 should cover running needs initially. I've one 4EPB on the 'workbench'* and the Hornby Networker awaiting attention.

 

At some point back dating to the 40s/50s/60s would be nice, to have a mix of earlier electric units (4SUB?) and steam (C class?), but that's a longer term goal. But with it in mind I'll be aiming to make buildings etc removable (which will aid storage).

 

Features will be:

  • Time period initially late 80s/early 90s - i.e. just before privatisation.
  • EPBs main units with one 465 or 466 on trial runs.
  • No stations. Just simple track work running lines.
  • Level crossing for interest (based upon sand street)
  • Junction off to the dockyard
  • Cassette fiddle yard
  • Portable/modular to allow easy storage - thinking about IKEA INGO tables or old dresser draw fronts for main boards to save money.

I've still to finallise a plan and have been discussing it with Natalie for advice/input.

 

I've already got one Hornby Networker, with parts to hopefully make a 465 unit. I'll likely add another 466 to the fleet. I might look at remotoring the Networkers as the Hornby unit isn't that good at all really. Wondering if spuds or similar would work, or using a 73/bil/better power bogie and changing the sides?

 

I've also got a Bachmann 2-EPB, and have the parts to do the Replica 4EPB conversion plans. At some point I'll source iether a Bachmann 4-CEP chassis or get a Replica powered chassis for the 4-EPB.

 

That should give enough stock to start with.

 

Thinking handbuilt/C+L/SMP track with PECO code 75 off scene. Thankfully idea only really has 2 points excluding any off scene! With this in mind would Templot be best bet to plan with?

 

* My 'workbench' is currently unusable due to having moved recently sadly.

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I like the concept. Looking forward to further progress.

 

Thanks :) first order is to look at maps some more and work out lengths needed (minimum 6' length for a 4 car unit i think with fiddle space at each end as well). It'll probably be a slightly curved layout i suspect (the real area is).

 

Trying to decide on what baseboard materials to use as well. Foamboard or ply. I need to keep it light due to my back, so multiple small modules i think. So maybe foamboard with ply siding/top for warp prevention?

 

Next is to get Templot and SCRAM up and running and see how I get on with each of them as to what track type i go with (peco 75 or C+L).

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Although I have no experience with foam-board, I think your suggestion for ply siding/top can work well.

 

It seems to be the consensus that protecting it with thin ply against knocks is worthwhile. As well as to add rigidity to the structure to prevent warping/sagging.

 

I suspect I'll do sections in something like 2' size and find a way to then store them on top of each other, another reason why removable scenery items will be a good and useful thing to plan into the ideas.

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Kelly -

 

by 'foamboard,' do you mean the foam-centred card available in 3-6mm thickness' or the dense urethane foam sold under various tradenames ('Celotex', 'Floormate' etc?)  I've used both (although the first type is on a 2mm layout currently under construction) and I like them both.  The high-density urethane foam is excellent - very stable and (importantly) easily worked for scenics.  It pays to go to a specialist trade outlet (NOT 'Bodge & Queue') - it comes in 75mm thickness but a good outlet will have the ability to 'hotwire' it to a more relevant thickness (I use 12-18mm, but have had it cut down to 5mm (but I had to pay for the wastage - no probs, I used it for scenic work!).

 

Regs

 

Ian

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Kelly -

 

by 'foamboard,' do you mean the foam-centred card available in 3-6mm thickness' or the dense urethane foam sold under various tradenames ('Celotex', 'Floormate' etc?)  I've used both (although the first type is on a 2mm layout currently under construction) and I like them both.  The high-density urethane foam is excellent - very stable and (importantly) easily worked for scenics.  It pays to go to a specialist trade outlet (NOT 'Bodge & Queue') - it comes in 75mm thickness but a good outlet will have the ability to 'hotwire' it to a more relevant thickness (I use 12-18mm, but have had it cut down to 5mm (but I had to pay for the wastage - no probs, I used it for scenic work!).

 

Regs

 

Ian

 

Ian,

 

I mean the 3-10mm card version as available from www.foamboard.co.uk.

 

Had considered getting hte dense stuff, but only real options round here are B&Q, Wicks etc it seems.

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