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Introducing the rolling stock – 1: Representing the LNWR


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I’ll present the current status of the rolling stock in groups of three, as for some bizarre reason, this just seems to work.

 

First the LNWR, as this is their line the plan is to have the Premier line (would a modern company get away with such conceit? Probably……) most numerically represented. All these wagons are in the process of having the paintwork finished and being weathered.

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So, from Left to right, we have a D1 9” sided 1 plank open wagon constructed from a Gladiator kit, a D43 Gunpowder van from a Furness Railway Wagon co kit and a D17a brake van from an unknown kit (the box is unlabelled) purchased at the O Gauge Guild's Telford exhibition about 17 years ago.

 

“Hang on a minute………..didn’t you say this layout was based in the 1890 – 1900 time frame?”

 

“Err, yes.” :blush_mini:

 

“And you’ve modelled a D17A Brake van that wasn’t introduced until 1910?” :nono:

 

“Well, I err, got confused when I bought the kit as information on LNWR wagons was scant in 1998 and the internet wasn’t as informative. It wasn’t until I had built most of the kit I realised I should have bought a D16 van.” :sclerosis:

 

 

This poses a conundrum.

 

- Should I finish the van in pre-1908 livery (no LNWR lettering and diamonds only) which the van would never have carried, but fits the time frame of the layout (would you have known it was wrong if I hadn’t told you?).

 

or

 

- Should I keep the integrity of the model and represent a livery it would have carried but would be out of the time frame of the rest of the layout?

I am leaning toward the latter, any thoughts out there?

 

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The kit was my first resin kit and finished long after the instructions had been lost….so is best viewed from a distance. :pilot:

 

Also I've just noticed I've got the chimney in the wrong place, I've drilled it central to the whole van, rather than central on the compartment. :banghead:

 

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The D1 was the most numerous of LNWR wagons, with 20,000 being built from 1859 to 1889 (almost 1 per route mile of railway) some surviving into LMS ownership. In the timeframe modelled the majority of the Railway companies were still building low side small capacity wagons.

The Gladiator kit goes together well with good quality castings, I just wish I could persuade them to sell the axle boxes separately.

I’ve used Haywood wheels which have the advantage of being supplied black, they are also appear slightly finer than the Slater’s alternative.

 

One of the buffers is slightly off as I didn’t drill the shank straight so I’ll probably have to replace these at a later date with sprung ones from the Heywood range.

I’ll wait until it annoys me sufficiently though.

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I love these little vans, they are tiny. There is some debate about the colour but there seems to be common consensus that in the 1890 – 1900 period they would be painted vermillion. I’m not too sure the shade I’ve got here is correct, a bit orangey perhaps? I need to work out the way to do the lettering as this is quite small, and a lot of it. I sense an experiment with some decal paper in the future…..

 

The kit itself is a Furness Railway Wagon Company kit. It goes together quite well but to enable the embossing of the rivets the sides are very thin and require reinforcing with some struts of scrap brass. The punching out of the rivets by hand final drove me to buy a GW rivet punch. Believe me there are a lot of rivets on this wagon. Any offers to count……..?

 

Unfortunately I’ve been a bit heavy handed with the paint and this detail has been swamped a bit. I am hoping that once weathered the relief will become highlighted and the detail visible again.

 

If not it’ll be stripped back and repainted.

 

Anyway I’m still not sure about that red…………

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  • RMweb Gold

The wagons are very nice but I'm assuming they are 7mm? The 2FS logo in your avatar is very confusing.

 

Jerry

 

Edit

Just read some of your other posts and it makes a bit more sense now. Any chance of a real name?

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  • RMweb Gold

Jerry,

 

Apologies for any confusion caused. I am still a member of the 2mm society, but not of the 0 Gauge Guild hence that doesn't appear in the avatar.

I am considering changing it, but was figuring any publicity for the society would help increse exposure and interest, even if posted against a 7mm blog.

 

I will take care in the future to ensure I state this blog is 7mm.

 

my real name is Angus Higgins.

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No that have an invested interest in the Gunpowder van but it looks really good finished in the red livery.

 

Marc Dobson

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Thanks Marc,

 

I've just noticed I've missed the chassis end stops!

Also the colour isn't really captured in the pictures, I must dig out the decent camera rather than relying on the phone.

 

Angus

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I think 'First Group' could be said to have the same conceit as 'Premier Line'! 

 

That D43 is a very attractive little vehicle.  If the colour description is 'vermilion' then I think it probably should be more orange than your shade but, with 19th-century colours, who really knows?

 

I'm interested that you jumped straight from 2mm to 7mm when so many people seem to find 4mm a good compromise.

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  • RMweb Gold

Hi Mike,

 

I agree with you about the colour, in the flesh the red is even less orangey than the camera image renders here but I think I'll leave it.

It'll change tone once weathered anyway, it is a bit "in yer face" at present but does offer a splash of colour.

 

I actuality I started in 7mm before I attempt 2mm, the story is a bit complex (and boring).

I started in 3mm ( found the kits varied massively in quality and I didn't have the skills)

moved to 7mm (with a long term ambition, built a few wagon kits and found I like the size and look)

then started in N-gauge as a smaller interim project until more space available (didn't like the quality of the r-t-r steam, tried diesel, got side tracked into N-Scale US and then came back to UK steam via 2mm finescale).

 

In the background I've been constantly researching for the Pre-grouping 7mm layout

 

The idea of the recent layouts is that the 7mm layout will live in the garage (cold in winter) and the 2mm is small enough to fit in the house without upset.

However I am currently enjoying using the winter months reducing the 7mm kit pile thus side-tracking the 2mm project.

 

My aversion to 4mm is simple, I don't trust myself to avoid the "ooh that's nice I'll just get one to run occasionally......" and before you know it I'd have another steam/diesel transition BR layout when actually my interest is turn of the century LNWR (and CR and NSR and ......).

 

I think I'm settled on scales now, but then there the couple of narrow gauge kits I built after a holiday in Porthmadog, and I still have some 3mm kits un-built.

I've always thought S scale was interesting...................... 

 

Angus

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