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King Edward VII redux- GCR 8D, Part II


James Harrison

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Last time (over a month ago- really?) I introduced the thinking behind my replacing my current compound Jersey Lily.

 

The first thing to do was to introduce the Patriot chassis to the body and to make notes of where to cut. There was a fairly large lump to remove from the front of the chassis and another hefty piece to remove from the back, so it was out with the dremel and, over the course of a few evenings, these areas were cut away and discarded. I now had a chassis block that would fit, neatly, into the body.

 

I was then able to reinstate the driving wheels and look to the valvegear.

 

This was the point when the project started going in large, slow and sadly pointless circles.

 

The valvegear on the Hornby chassis is screwed into the centre driving wheels and merely push-fit into the front and rear driving wheels. In this instance I had removed the rear axle, so the connecting rods pretty quickly worked loose and fell away. When the cylinders were added I also found that the coupling rods fouled the crossheads and that the whole model could just lock up tight.

 

My solution to this was threefold; firstly the crosshead brackets were removed from the Bachmann cylinders and replaced with those from the Hornby Patriot; then the connecting rods were swapped over from the Bachman Robinson type to the Hornby Patriot type. This loosened things up a bit but everything was still apt to bind up quickly. So secondly the cylinders were removed from the model, their tiebar cut through and a new tiebar made up of plastic sheet to set the cylinders 1.5mm further apart. This is wider than scale but not by so much as to appear ridiculous. When tested this also improved reliablity to the point that the only problem was the coupling rods dropping out of the leading axle. So I bought a set of Hornby A1/A3/A4 driving wheels and the matching coupling rods for same, which screw into all three axles. I replaced the driving wheels entirely, retained the original coupling rods and replaced the pins in the end with screws. The result is a very sweet-running chassis; we got there in the end!

 

Having gotten it all to run, I then had to remove the wheels and valvegear as I had decided to permanently fix the chassis onto the body.

 

The stage I am now at, then, is returnig the body from a 1930s/ 1940s appearance to how the locomotive appeared in the 1920s. This largely consists of removing the snifting valve and replacing the safety valves.

 

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  • RMweb Gold

I've had that exact same problem with my old 'King' body and Walschaerts valve gear, just all binds up after half a turn, hadn't thought to replace the wheels though, the only thing I could think of was to space the cylinders further out but it soon became out of gauge! 

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It took me a little while to work out exactly what was happening with my chassis, eventually I figured out that the wheels locked at roughly the same point on each rotation, and by closely inspecting the locked wheels I found that the coupling rod was coming adrift of the wheel at the pinned end.  As it comes adrift and pulls out it clashes with the connecting rod and eventually you end up with the two fighting for the same space, at which point the wheels lock up. 

 

The only way I could think to solve this problem was to look for wheelsets on which the coupling rods are physically screwed onto each wheel, however this takes up a little more space than just the pin so even if I had done this first I would still most likely have ended up setting the cylinders further apart... I've said it before and I'll say it again, I loathe and detest chassis hacking!

 

It's beyond me how the EM/ P4/ S4 chaps manage to get their valvegear to fit in the space available...

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  • RMweb Gold

Yep that's exactly what is happening! I do have spare A3 coupling rods and wheels, though.. will give it a try. Thanks!

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