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SketchUp 1:1 scale 3D model


blog-0871493001447508160.jpgThe original SketchUp 3D model was drawn using 0 gauge scale dimensions, basically the actual scale of the model and the cabinetry it will sit on.

 

I have made a new 3D model using the space but scaling it in real dimensions. Thus the 2.4m x 0.6m layout actually measures 343ft x 86ft in full scale. This doesn't seem very much space. Here is a view of what I have "built" so far:

 

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I have discovered a couple of errors which will need a major revision, unfortunate after all the effort of making the ramp up to the coal hole as this will have to be modified. Basically the minimum radius of curved track is 6 scale feet and I had used 6ft as the diameter when drawing the curves! This only affects the road coming into the turntable from the cassette and the road going up to the coal hole. The coal hole may have to be redesigned to something very similar to Monument Lane's original coal hole - the tank covering two roads, one of which rises to allow coal to be shovelled directly from wagon into tender. I don't like this much, so more thought will be given once the access road is re-aligned to see if the current plan can be maintained in some form. One key reason for keeping the current design is that during the 1950s two qualities of coal were used, best Yorkshire for passenger engines, poor coal for goods engines.

 

I know that a larger shed (such as Monument Lane or Bushbury) would have had an LMS concrete coal tower and steel framed ash plant, but the concrete tower would look a bit ridiculous on a two road shed layout!

 

Incidentally, the previous post on the research books will also be most useful in determining where to place all the smaller buildings and so on.

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Northroader

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Just a reaction looking at it, my feeling is everything is centred entirely on the turntable, which looks ?? Can't quite explain it. Then I don't know about the wagon road from the coaling stage on to the turntable. Sorry I sound wishy washy, I know an ex LNWR steam shed scene will have a lot going for it.

Focalplane

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Well, the turntable is the only way to switch tracks in such a limited space when the minimum radius has to be 6 feet.  This layout design is probably more appropriate to a roundhouse operation than a straight through shed.  The turntable design in SketchUp has not had any detail placed on it.

 

Wagons to the coaling stage will be pushed (by the Jinty) straight across the turntable.  This is "just about" prototypical.  What is more problematic is the provision of a siding for ash wagons at top right.  In this case the wagon plus shunter will have to be turned through a few degrees on the turntable.

 

These non-prototypical operations are purely constrained by the space.  But the prototype shed at Monument Lane was also limited in space available.  Foreign enginemen had to take great care in approaching the shed from the main line.

 

I have designed this layout for operation as much as display.  Instead of the signalman being the prime controller of movements it will be the shed foreman.  To facilitate this, operators will be given the plan of action for a session and have to work out the best way to get the locos in and out as well as deliver coal and remove ash.

 

Thanks for the comment, it all helps to clean up the state of affairs before any real modelling takes place!

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Northroader

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I've been churning this over in my mind since posting yesterday. With small b/board a turntable to take a Jube, ( or an unrebuilt patriot, g'wan, g'wan) and the need to keep the shed entry lengths down, you can't do much else. I think it was just the great bare space behind the t/t which tripped me off. Once you've filled this with a high retaining wall with arches (I can see where your next blog is going?) it will look much better, I'm sure. I use the kirtley papers, by the way, repetitive pattern, yes, but it isn't that obvious once broken up into a structure. On your reference books list, have you seen/ got " LNWR portrayed" Jack Nelson Peco pubs. 1947? It has drawings of all the buildings/ structures you need for what you're doing. Come back if you ain't.

Focalplane

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Thanks, I will look for the book, good drawings are hard to find using search engines. And yes, the layout will be contained within retaining walls, etc. just like Monument Lane was.

 

And I found a reasonably priced used copy (one on Amazon was listed as "new" and the asking price

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