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Hunslet 15" in P4 - part 1b - still getting it all to fit in


Ian H C

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Looking at the High Level Kits Loadhauler gearboxes now. First up the plain Loadhauler.
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The motor sits very low in the boiler. Theoretically there's clearance, but in reality I'd want more than that. And the back of the gearbox intrudes into the cab through the backplate. So that's not going to work.

 

Next is the Loadhauler Plus that has a swivelly extender section on the end.
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With the extender level it won't fit, but with it rotated 20 degrees the motor is raised clear into the boiler and the whole gearbox is contained in the firebox with no intrusion into the cab. From the end view you can see that the top of the gearbox would project through the top of the boiler but that section of the gearbox can be cut back to fit. I did consider taking the top off the boiler and using some of the space in the saddle tank to accommodate the gearbox but the structure of the tank doesn't make that too easy. The drive extender hangs down a bit on a loco with small wheels (3'8" in this case) and I'm hoping the brakes and linkage will disguise it. There won't be a lot of room to add weight in the boiler but some can be placed in the ends of the chassis and some could be added to the saddle tank.

 

The Loadhauler Plus fits but there's one more problem to solve. The motor now sits well forward inside the boiler and it doesn't look possible to fit the body to the chassis if the cab and boiler are built onto the footplate as intended. I think the cab can be built on the footplate but the boiler and firebox will have to be built as a separate unit and fixed to the footplate with screws. That's looking like the best solution but it needs a bit more work on the details before I commit. I'll get round to actually building something eventually.

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Perhaps these two threads might be of interest? I have actually rebuilt (twice) my Hunslet 15" which was acquired second hand, but even now, more or less in the way the designer intended with a tiny motor mounted vertically in the firebox. The supplied chimney is a very strange thing, halfway between the original Hunslet cast example and the welded sheet steel affair that some machines with modified draughting were given by the NCB in Yorkshire. Mike Edge can supply a casting from his kit for a small consideration and this is much better.

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/57924-refurbishing-an-impetus-hunslet-15-0-6-0st/

 

I have also built a Bagnall from the same stable and this was modified in the way you have described. This was, in fact, quite straightforward, though some care needs to be taken that the smokebox sits straight. I will do the same to a Mercian Peckett I have in due course. It's largely a question of soldering the firebox onto the footplate rather than the bottom of the boiler and making the tank supports on the cab front line up. Hopefully the photos in the thread linked below should make sense?

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/30496-preston-docks-bagnalls-impetus-kit-and-prototype/

 

Adam

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Thanks Adam. They're lovely. Envy.....

 

I hadn't thought about fixing the firebox. That simplifies things somewhat.

 

I really like the Bagnall, but after the Hunslet 15" there's a couple of Brassmasters Austerities to build. Oh, and a Judith edge Hunslet diesel hydraulic. And then a Judith edge Sentinel. That lot'll get me to retirement, then I'll have time for a Bagnall. Maybe.

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