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Rails/Dapol SE&CR Diag 1424 Box Van


Mick Bonwick

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The roof.

 

In its pure, unadulterated, white and irregular/asymmetric form the roof will be loved by some and not by others. The markings are really strange and on my sample really can be seen from three feet away. Once covered with my favourite very light airbrushed wash for white roofs it takes on a life of its own:

 

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There is nothing for it but to completely repaint it, so I've chosen Railmatch Roof Dirt. If I eventually want to vary the shade sightly, I'll use some dark grey pigment.

 

My second example has arrived and is no different overall than my first. There are some minor differences in the print finish but nothing that will make me want to pursue this method of production any further. It has been (for me) an interesting exercise in trying to work out what will or won't work from a weathering perspective. I'm sure that those who have their own will have reached their own conclusions about this technology and the products it produces.

 

To finalise this topic, I have put my weathered sample next to my pristine sample for comparison purposes:

 

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A final word (or several) about this model - be very careful when weathering the sides. The door handles are very easily removed by wide flat shaders and lost in the carpet!

 

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  • RMweb Gold

That roof effect is seriously wierd!

Overall, a bit of a sorry tale, from which one might reach the conclusion that models produced this way simply don't lend themselves to being weathered.

A shame that your efforts to find a solution were not better rewarded.

Tony

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I've weathered one of these for certain @gwrrob, it certainly didn't have the 3D printing pattern on the roof (that's what the lines are). I suspect the roof is the bare 3D Print.

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Once I had started down this path I quickly realised that things were going to be different. Techniques that had become favourites were obviously not going to be sufficiently effective on the very uneven surfaces that I was facing. Injection moulded stock gives us nice flat surfaces covered with a nice satin paint finish and that was what I was used to working with.

 

I think that this type of product can be weathered, but it's necessary to think carefully about how you might need to tackle each aspect.

 

It's different!

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Been following this with interest Mick. The weathered wagon does look good and is a fantastic improvement but I can appreciate the differences, especially the roof. It seems like washes wont work quite so well and more airbrush weathering might be needed. I wonder how  the "old fashioned"  slosh the paint  on wipe off method wont work so well with that surface. 

My favourite method! ;)

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15 hours ago, Mick Bonwick said:

 

I think that this type of product can be weathered, but it's necessary to think carefully about how you might need to tackle each aspect.

 

 

Thinking about this, whilst there might be other approaches, could it be that this would just be a case of "lipstick on a pig"?

(Viz. it's still a pig!). :rolleyes:

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14 hours ago, sb67 said:

 I wonder how  the "old fashioned"  slosh the paint  on wipe off method wont work so well with that surface. 

 

I imagine you would have the same trouble as Mick has illustrated - if the surface is not totally smooth (and 3D printed stuff usually isn't) then 'wiping off' will merely highlight the undulations in the surface.

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15 hours ago, sb67 said:

I wonder how  the "old fashioned"  slosh the paint  on wipe off method wont work so well with that surface. 

My favourite method! ;)

 

43 minutes ago, phil-b259 said:

I imagine you would have the same trouble as Mick has illustrated - if the surface is not totally smooth (and 3D printed stuff usually isn't) then 'wiping off' will merely highlight the undulations in the surface.

 

The uneven nature of the surface means that any attempt at wiping off will probably leave material in the holes/ hollows/crevices/crevasses, so you both see it in the same light as I experienced it.

 

The effectiveness of capillary action is totally negated, so layers of pigment and/or paint will be the technique to rely upon until the technology gives us a suitable surface. I'm sure it's on its way!

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