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Edwin Beard Budding would be most pleased if he could sell me his invention.


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Edwin Beard Budding was among other things, the inventor of the lawnmower. Oh and the adjustable spanner. However the first of those two would have been of greater use to me tonight as tonight the vast majority of the Woodland Scenics grass was scrapped of the board, creating a smaller than predicted mess. Most of it has been saved and will be reused. 

 

I am not entirely sure how useful a lawnmower in such small a scale would be at removing said grass,  but it was something to think about.

 

Below we see the station area with a small clump that still needs cleaning. And some cheeky Daleks.

 

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Various excavations in the hill have also bee done, one of them quite major. This big one will probably have a plasticard retaining wall built around it.  The strawberry load platform will go in a bit further east. The second much smaller excavation was made to level out the up line approach to the tunnel, as it was really rather wonky. 

 

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Station and Building plans:

 

The current platform consists of a wooden board which is profiled to look like a platform, and covered in brick paper. Not a great solution, as it peels very easily and the grains int he wood are visible through the paint atop the board. So I intend to, at least once I've scavenged the second platform, sand both down to a more acceptable look, and they will then probably be covered in modelling putty. Does anybody know if the SE&CR ever covered the bricks of its platforms in plaster ( @Edwardian, Honorable Mayor, your assistance would be much appreciated with such matters). The station as you see has some very large windows in it which let in not insignificant amounts of light into its cavernous interior, so these will need blocking over with curtains of something, which I will probably have to draw and get one of my friends who's good at art to color. Part of the station is also totally unsupported, and steps need adding from the street into it. 

 

As for the street, I'm working on a plan. It will certainly be of the hard compacted paved looking pale dirt type, with street lights on the edge of the board, and people walking along with a delivery carriage passing by. The carriage and horse I already have, both are from Dart Castings. People I have yet to acquire, and I need practice painting figures, but when the time comes I hope to get them from Andrew Stadden. Not thought has yet been given to the provision of horse droppings in the street. 

 

Douglas

 

 

 

 

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Good to see a pre-Grouping project taking shape. There will be others far better qualified than I to comment on SE platforms, but here are two examples that seem to offer some encouragement.

 

Halstead, a SER station opened 1876 and later known as Knockholt. This is a wooden station.  The platform appears to be masonry, however, as it looks to be edged with brick (quite common a common alternative to edging stones). The view is given as c.1880.

 

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Another SER timber wooden station of the period, Bromley (1878) is said to have had platforms "edged in timber".  Quite what that means, I'm unsure.  Considering Bromley, is it possible to interpret the edging at Knockholt as timber planking, not brick?

 

Whatever the construction of Knockholt station platform, the effect is of a smooth, rendered, platform face beneath the edging.

 

The only other example I have so far spotted is at the LCDR's Canterbury, later known as Canterbury East, of 1860, in a picture dated to the 1890s. Here the platform is very striking, with no apparent edging/coping or overhang, it looks like nothing so much as a huge concrete slab, you can even see where it's chipped at the edge to the right.  

 

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On 27/05/2021 at 00:46, Edwardian said:

Good to see a pre-Grouping project taking shape. There will be others far better qualified than I to comment on SE platforms, but here are two examples that seem to offer some encouragement.

 

Halstead, a SER station opened 1876 and later known as Knockholt. This is a wooden station.  The platform appears to be masonry, however, as it looks to be edged with brick (quite common a common alternative to edging stones). The view is given as c.1880.

 

20210527_062312.jpg.f7a6e1a32da12f65af8c989a11b6b293.jpg

 

Another SER timber wooden station of the period, Bromley (1878) is said to have had platforms "edged in timber".  Quite what that means, I'm unsure.  Considering Bromley, is it possible to interpret the edging at Knockholt as timber planking, not brick?

 

Whatever the construction of Knockholt station platform, the effect is of a smooth, rendered, platform face beneath the edging.

 

The only other example I have so far spotted is at the LCDR's Canterbury, later known as Canterbury East, of 1860, in a picture dated to the 1890s. Here the platform is very striking, with no apparent edging/coping or overhang, it looks like nothing so much as a huge concrete slab, you can even see where it's chipped at the edge to the right.  

 

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Thank you James, that was most informative.

 

Wood edged platforms could be a possibility. They would have noticeable disadvantages over conventional materials though, such as the cost of having to have some whopping great big pieces of oak creosoted probably up in Sunderland at Armstrong Addison Ltd. Or if the SECR creosoted its own sleepers in bulk then perhaps those would have been used at no cost to the company? 

 

On an unrelated note, are those what we call in the USA "dwarf signals" to the left of No 16's tender in your post?

 

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11 minutes ago, Florence Locomotive Works said:

 ...snip... On an unrelated note, are those what we call in the USA "dwarf signals" to the left of No 16's tender in your post?

Douglas

On the Pennsy, they were referred to as "pot" signals. If it survived my move, I have one somewhere.

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On 28/05/2021 at 22:53, Florence Locomotive Works said:

 

Thank you James, that was most informative.

 

Wood edged platforms could be a possibility. They would have noticeable disadvantages over conventional materials though, such as the cost of having to have some whopping great big pieces of oak creosoted probably up in Sunderland at Armstrong Addison Ltd. Or if the SECR creosoted its own sleepers in bulk then perhaps those would have been used at no cost to the company? 

 

On an unrelated note, are those what we call in the USA "dwarf signals" to the left of No 16's tender in your post?

 

Douglas

 

Re the top photograph, there is no trace of planking on the platform surface.  I would be tempted to treat such a platform as masonry, to surface with something like fine sandpaper or chinchilla dust and to interpret the edging as brick with an overhanging single course of stretchers above the rendered side and then bricks set with their headers facing the line to form the coping.

 

Re the lower photograph, the dwarf signals are what in the UK would be referred to as ''ground signals''. I could not say off hand whether they were a LCDR design of a type adopted or introduced by the SE&CR.

 

 

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On 28/05/2021 at 17:02, J. S. Bach said:

On the Pennsy, they were referred to as "pot" signals. If it survived my move, I have one somewhere.

 Might I suggest setting it up at the end of your driveway?

 

8 hours ago, Edwardian said:

 

Re the top photograph, there is no trace of planking on the platform surface.  I would be tempted to treat such a platform as masonry, to surface with something like fine sandpaper or chinchilla dust and to interpret the edging as brick with an overhanging single course of stretchers above the rendered side and then bricks set with their headers facing the line to form the coping.

 

Re the lower photograph, the dwarf signals are what in the UK would be referred to as ''ground signals''. I could not say off hand whether they were a LCDR design of a type adopted or introduced by the SE&CR.

 

 

 
Yes that would make more sense than timber. I was thinking of just coating the entire platform(s) in a fine plaster rather than working with chinchilla sand. 

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31 minutes ago, Florence Locomotive Works said:

 Might I suggest setting it up at the end of your driveway?

I had thought about that. Wiring it up to display a particular aspect would be the problem.

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