Jump to content
 

The 1/50 project, Some bogies and frames.


Dave John

610 views

A wheel to start with. That’s a 20mm  tyre from an old romford wheel soldered to a turned steel disc with a bit of brass tube in the middle. Tube is 3 mm id, 3.5 mm od.

 

746635947_150bogies1.JPG.a8c223997eaa0d652b8f29e18123e993.JPG

 

 

From which a pair of axles The unpowered one has a 3mm silver steel axle , the n20 is a snug fit into the tube for the powered one.  The bearings are Gibson, carefully opened out from 1/8 to 3.5 mm

 

1038321584_150bogies2.JPG.d19c3684a6ca9560bc1fc5a64fbfb6ff.JPG

 

Bogie frames cut from 1mm brass. I have used the Gibson hornguides. These days I prefer the high level ones for the EM stuff. I find they have a better lateral tolerance, important  for locos with con rods but for this I can use up old stock. There will be some primary suspension, but I will worry about that when I know more about the mass that it has to suspend.

 

596087267_150bogies3.JPG.5f8fa2dc185a45a7c8bb993503586821.JPG

 

 

The longitudinal pivot is set back from the centre line, my idea is to put more weight on the driving axles. I don’t know how well that will work yet.

 

669827508_150bogies4.JPG.8d51accf3f94260d9d2f3fdce6965c2c.JPG

 

 

So I tried a quick lash up. A simple brass frame, it is all just sat there for now. Hefty battery as a weight, the bit of string goes to a weight draped over the side of the bench. Rough it looks, but it proves the point, these motors pack a punch for their size. It happily gives 100 g of drawbar pull, jam it solid and the wheels slip rather than locking even with that battery on top. Of course if needed I could always add another pair of traction motors.

 

 

592776447_150bogies6.JPG.a7715da0e3a17259b8e398dce4e2bbe3.JPG

 

 

Confident that the concept is reasonably practical some further improvements, suspension added and a fuel tank in the centre. The card formers are just wedged in, but allow me to define the internal volume of the engine compartment.

 

The springs are 0.7 mm pb , they go into a tube soldered to the bogie frame so I can change them later if needs be. Some brass shim on the tops of the wheel bearings so the spring end doesn’t get caught in the groove.

 

 

 

624744448_150bogies7.JPG.40b174e3e0ae3bf5dba1f214bbcb8266.JPG

 

 

 

Power and control next.

 

 

  • Like 2
  • Craftsmanship/clever 4

3 Comments


Recommended Comments

Excellent, this is looking like engineering as well as model making - is the scale difference making the difference you were looking for?  It's interesting that one can use 1/76 EM gauge parts to built up an assembly at 1:50; that's a useful attribute - although I inherited a good deal of 00 stuff (built and unbuilt) from my father, it's really only the tools which I've found a use for working in 7mm/ft.

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
  • RMweb Premium

Well, it is an exercise in thinking about scale and what we take as being normal. 

 

For instance those driving wheels would be 5' in 4mm OO for which they were made. However they are thicker than a gibson wheel, so I wouldn't use them for EM. However they are only a OO wheel insofar as it says so on the bag. Machine out the centre and they just become a component, in this case a 1m driving wheel of a realistic thickness at 1/50 th.  

 

Really a case of thinking about scale from a different direction. 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
  • RMweb Gold

You don't wait around Dave, a loco on the go already - impressive.

 

It will be interesting to see how this affects the way you look at Kelvinbank. When I've had my box of 7mm scale stuff out I always need to re-adjust to 4mm scale as one seems too big and the other too small. But maybe that's the point of 1:50! 😃

  • Interesting/Thought-provoking 1
Link to comment

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...