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Rolling Stock - Not exactly prototypical


PeterStiles

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I have Private owner wagons from the 40s; an 04 early-crest shunter from the 50s and a Nun from the 60s.

 

 

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I wanted a small shunter and the 04 had just come out screaming “cute”. I do have a Dapol Terrier but it’s not well and doesn’t like going forwards or backwards, so I’m waiting for a new batch of those before I pick up another one -second-hand wasn’t the way to go there ☹

 

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Rather than painting numbers on a set of 16t mineral wagons, I wanted to be able to identify each wagon cleanly by sight, hence why the PO wagons in the main. You can argue that the PO wagons have simply not been repainted yet (there were a fair few and I can imagine they weren’t over-painted over night). So we can pretend its “not too far after privatisation” from that aspect.

 

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We’ll have to forgive my scenery and figures as being from a variety of ages; I shouldn’t have built the coffee shop as such for instance, although, luckily, we all know that Grace Bros. was established in the 19th Century so caters for all of the 20th century (once windows got that big, of course). I’ve decided against fitting lights in the buildings, as I suspect you’d find less well-lit buildings in the 1950s at night compared to now; I may invest in a LED for the pub tho’ – I suspect that would have been glowing at all times of day or night (opening hours permitting).

 

Motor vehicles on the roads are not fixed, so I can, as time goes by, refine the set and ensure I have some 1952ness about the roads.

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Private owner mineral wagons were requisitioned by the Government on the outbreak of war in 1939 and never handed back. By 1952, none of them had been painted for at least a dozen years and they were getting pretty faded. "Modernisation" at this date meant breaking up wooden chassis 13T minerals with grease axle boxes and replacing them with all-steel 16T minerals with oil axle-boxes. The replacements were still unfitted... Quite a few wooden PO mineral wagons built on pre-grouping days , often to 10T capacity , were still in traffic in 1948

 

Wooden PO minerals were fading fast in the 1950s (literaly! )- quite a lot of our knowledge of the liveries comes from those chasing the survivors with camera and note book to record examples that were still fairly clear

 

It was BR policy not to repaint wooden minerals. Ever. They were on their way out, everything was scarce - why waste paint on them? The ironwork was probably given an occasional lick of paint - the wood simply weathered to unpainted (There was a brief period where policy was relaxed and minerals were painted grey - but it was very brief)

 

PO vans were pretty uncommon. Vans were almost entirely the prorogative of the railway companies. I'm pretty sure Fyffes did not have their own vans - pre-nationalisation the ships came into Hull, then Southampton or Avonmouth and were moved in LNER or SR banana vans.So the Fyffes and Colmans vans are pretty certain to be inauthentic (Banana vans were special vehicles, fitted with steam heating, fitted underframes, XP , for fast perishable traffic. And they generally moved as trainloads from the ports to stores). Bass probably did have their own vans but they probably didn't venture outside Bass' own internal railway network.

 

So my first step towards a more authentic fleet more in period involves a paint brush (a fine one as it's N). I would put Fyffes and Colmans into BR fitted bauxite (a bright orangy shade in the 1950s) and BR unfitted grey (in the 1950s a pretty light shade, very different from your dark grey van).They will still be quite distinctive in colour. Bass and OPCM can be left

 

The minerals are a weathering job. Bullcroft is an entirely authentic PO livery for a major S Yorks colliery . But it needs fading with a thin pinkish wash (including the white letters) and then a light application of a dirty wash . Dombey ~& Sons has more to do with Dickens than the coal trade I suspect. That might be a target for repainting as weathered unpainted greyish wood

 

Some prototype reference  PO mineral 1950s   replanked PO mineral  Stanton mineral NRM per/post restoration

 

and my search turned up this gem You tube - Coal and the War (1941)  though the date means that the wagons seen are still pretty pristine

 

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