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A CR pre-diagram furniture van wagon part 1


There is a photo in “Caledonian Railway Wagons” by Mike Williams of one of these wagons of which it it thought nine were built from 1878 onwards. No drawing but they were known to be 18’ long on a 11’8” wheelbase, enough to reasonably estimate the other dimensions.

 

Construction is from styrene sheet and section. Metal strips on the top of the sides had a series of holes for roping pegs, though I think they may have been threaded for an eyebolt. Perhaps a bar was pegged across the wagon to chock the wheels of the load ? There were also sheet hooks under the curb rails.

 

The little grey dots are masterclub bolt heads. They are tiny, drill a 0.3 mm hole and glue them in. It is the first time I have tried them in 4mm scale so it will be interesting to see whether it is worth the effort. perhaps after painting they might just be a dome and a rivet transfer would have been simpler, we shall see.

 

 

 

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A view of the other side. The photo in the book shows the side with no brakes. I think I can just see the bottom of  a brake block on the far side, so a standard Caley type Scotch brake seems a safe bet.

 

 

 

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A furniture van wagon needs a furniture van. An approximation of one.

 

 

 

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Some paint next.

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magmouse

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This is great - full of character. All wagons should have a brake lever as long as the wheelbase.

 

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I think they may have been threaded for an eyebolt. Perhaps a bar was pegged across the wagon to chock the wheels of the load ?

 

Carriage trucks around this time made use of bars going across to chock the wheels, fixed to longitudinal rails in the way you suggest, so that seems quite possible. See for example this GWR open carriage truck of 1888:

 

https://www.westernthunder.co.uk/threads/v2-4-wheel-parcel-van.10709/post-259911

 

Do you have a livery in mind for the furniture van?
 

Nick.

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Dave John

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Agreed Magmouse, I think I will make up a chocking bar. 

 

For the van I will just go for something anonymous. Very little of it will be seen. 

 

I know that people have made very fine models of vans on wagons in the past with wonderfully painted liveries. However I don't think they would have travelled like that. Those vans were expensive, especially when full of the house contents of affluent people. Travelling a long distance across several railway companies I think the owners would want a proper sheet over the whole thing. 

 

Makes sense to me anyway 

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magmouse

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I’ve been collecting pictures of furniture vans, as I plan to make one, and a couple of containers (‘lift vans’) in the same livery. Mostly the photos show the vans in the street, or loaded on a wagon in a goods yard (and so potentially before any sheeting was applied). There is though a photo here of a van in transit, unsheeted:

 

 


Of course, if you want/need to avoid a complex lettering job, then sheeting is the way forward!

 


Nick.

 

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Dave John

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Ah yes , I did read through that very good thread. The comment was made that although the van looked clean it wouldn't stay that way for long running just behind the loco. 

 

I think I will build it up sheeted and see how it looks to the eye. If it looks wrong there is a brass kit for a van from dart castings. 

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MikeOxon

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17 hours ago, magmouse said:

I’ve been collecting pictures of furniture vans, as I plan to make one, and a couple of containers (‘lift vans’) in the same livery. Mostly the photos show the vans in the street, or loaded on a wagon in a goods yard (and so potentially before any sheeting was applied).

 

I have written about Knee's furniture van in my blog - it is said to have been the first to be carried by rail.

 

Mike

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Compound2632

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These things seem to be all the rage. 

 

All the photos I've seen of furniture vans or containers on wagons show them unsheeted, including on trains, not just in yards. On the other hand, I don't know how many sheeted ones have gone unrecognised for what they were!

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