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The Fatadder

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Making good use of a warm bank holiday Monday I have got on with some painting,

 

First up, my DRS Class 37 (Which will be 37612). Black roof was sprayed, masking removed (thankfully with no damage) all looking good. This just needs the light clusters painting black along with detail painting the grills (and cantrail stripes) + transfers & Shawplan windows and it will be finished. Most annoyingly I have now found out that its completely out of period for the layout. While '612 was in DRS in 1998, I have modelled it in 2004 condition (ie Wipacs, reinforced windscreen and centre headlight) along with a Shawplan roof grill. In 1998 it should have standard ends (with the DRS recessed nose mounted multiple working socket), and should have standard windscreen frames. This is rather annoying given that I havent seen many (any?) DRS 37s finished with the correct windscreens, and if I hadnt bothered to do them on mine it would be a simple case now of just finding new noses.....

I guess another DRS respray will be needed at some point in the future then...

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Next was a Great Western Trains Class 47, (which will be 47813 "SS Great Britain") This has been resprayed from a Vi Trains Intercity liveried model, the end was modified to fill the holes from the body mounted ETH (moved to the chassis) and it has been fitted with Shawplan roof grills. The aim was just to strip the sides and keep the factory finish on the roof/ends however as paint stripper got onto the yellow ends they will also need a respray (I am undecided if I will spray this on Wednesday or wait and use an aerosol (that I find gives better coverage) when I can get some. The green has come out really well (I have found before when I sprayed my Heljan model of 47830 in the same livery). I did find that the masking tape lifted slightly over the no2 end roof and some primer has got through which will need tidying up. Hopefully Brian will have some of the new 47 glazing available at Scaleforum to finish it off... Given I move to Bristol on Friday SS Great Britain seems a rather appropriate name...

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Finally another Vi 47, this time it is 47817 "IMechE" in Virgin, Again this been prepared for the Shawplan roof grills and has been fitted with Shawplan boiler port detail to convert to the prototype's boiler variant. This, along with the renumbering (Vi Trains use Lima style printing thats next to impossible to shift) has left a fair bit to be resprayed. The Shawplan grills were deliberately left off to protect them through the paint process (they will be hand painted after fitting.) The plan was to respray the roof panel containing the boiler detail, along with the two cab sides, given that on a lot of previous Vi releases people had commented that the colour pretty much matched the available paint offerings I was expecting an easy job. However as can be seen in the photo below, either Vi Trains have got the grey much too dark or Phoenix have got it much too light. Either way, the model is a complete mess and will either require respraying those areas a second time with a better colour match to the Vi paint, or respraying all the grey with the phoenix colour. Either way, my plan to have this loco completed for Scaleforum to complement the other two 47s that I am bringing is over (that was pretty much the last of my Virgin Grey paint, and by the time I receive any more it will be time to move to Bristol.)

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Is the Virgin grey the same as Intercity dark grey? If so I always remember that Lima had it really dark and it never matched up to the Precision shade... wonder if Vitrains fell into the same trap? The finish looks excellent on the 47s though! Shame about the issues you've had with the 37 and now finding out its modelled out of period - it's definitely worth finishing Rich, it looks great so far, but then perhaps sell it on and start again? The second attempt at something is usually better than the first as well :)

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Pretty certain that its a different shade,

With Lima they modelled everything in Virgin in a very light shade of grey (much too light), looks like Vi have definitely gone much too dark while phoenix appears to be darker than Lima but still lighter than the prototype (and a lot lighter than Vi). The worry is that the red on the model is probably also too dark (so as to not look so wrong with the extra dark grey) so I am thinking a full respray is going to be needed.

 

The plan now is going to be to get the Railmatch Virgin grey, and respray the whole roof with that to see if its a closer match (tbh I really dont want to have to spray the red having previously found Virgin red a complete pig to spray). The other option post spraying would be a coat of satin varnish, as the Phoenix grey is very matt in comparison with the rest of the finish. In fact the cab sides in the dark hardly show up at all.....

 

If I do have to fully respray I will be even more annoyed, given that the virgin model had the ends that I needed for 47813. With 813 I am now stuck unable to finish the loco in time for Scaleforum because I need to get new surrounds for the marker lights to convert to the correct type (and of course cant spray up the ends until I have finished fixing the lights...)

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