Brian Daniels 7mm Diesels
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Brian's 7mm Workbench JLTRT Class 26
by brian daniels
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??? posted on Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:42 am
Bob, The headlights are from 1:43 Cararama mini's. They are about ?‚??4 so cheap enough to nick the lights out of. Here are a couple of pics of them.
I have also had the lettering for the fire pull done by John Pleck at Precision Labels, very nice they are to, as fitted to locos repaired at St Rollox.
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Comment posted by OgaugeJB on Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:29 am
Give it a few years and you could have a Mini breakers yard on a layout... pardon the pun! 
JB.
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Comment posted by alcazar on Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:07 pm
And what did I say? They looked like Lucas LR700's? Well Mini headlights were Lucas 7" units, so your model is pretty much authentic in THAT deaprtment 
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Comment posted by OgaugeJB on Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:58 pm
I think it's pretty much authentic in all departments... all except the distance between the backs of the wheels of course ?? 
(Only pulling your proverbial leg of course..)
JB.
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Comment posted by Bob-65B on Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:06 pm
Cheers Brian thanks for the pointer! The fire pull lettering certainly looks the part....! all your missing now is the realistic black boot marks - doc martin soles contaminated with diesel on the bottom of the cab doors with the drivers and secondmen trying to get into (or out of) the loco 
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Bob.
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??? posted on Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:54 pm
Whilst I am waiting for some castings to finish the 26 off I thought I would put the air tanks together to see what they look like. If I were doing an air braked one then there is a bit of air pipe work to do around the frame work. Mind you later on I might be tempted to do one of 26001-7
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Comment posted by thedman on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:01 pm
Strange for 022 to get helical bogies so early, considering it was withdrawn in 81 without having HGR!
Also don't think it would have had the water tanks replaced with the air resovoirs. (hope this is just a trial of different parts).
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Comment posted by Bob-65B on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:18 pm
Not that strange thedman. There were already 13 withdrawn by March 81 (most in the late 70s) only one of which was outwith the ScR. No doubt an early experiment by the ScR M&EE Sulzer Section!
Bob.
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Comment posted by Jamie on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:19 pm
Beautiful work Brian. With space and cash I'd love to do the BRCWs in 7mm - maybe someday.
If I read Brian's post correctly, the air reservoirs were built up just to see what the castings looked like rather than being a permanent feature of his model. Would like to know the difference between 26 and 27 bogies though, for my own purposes in the 4mm world.
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Comment posted by Pennine MC on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:42 pm
If you didn't Jamie, you're in good company. I reckon meself the clue is where he says "*if* I were doing an air braked one"
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??? posted on Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:50 pm
As has been said already, read slowly what I wrote and all will be clear, simples 
The tanks screw on under the body so I just thought I would see what they looked like under it. Aparently they are having a re-design as JLTRT boffins were not happy with these.
As to the coil springs on the bogies, 26020-046 were built with them. Only the 26/0 had them retro fitted. The B&W picture shows an original 26/1 bogie. The colour picture of 26011 as preserved shows an interesting thing. It has not been re-bogied with a coil spring bogie as it still has the 26/0 style of long lifting lugs ( don't think they are lifting lugs but must admit I'm stumped as to what they really are 
)on the bogie side as opposed to the short ones fitted to 26/1 and 27's. It appears to only have had the bolster springs changed from leaf springs to coil springs.
I have just got hold of 6 Cararama minis for their headlights but they are slightly different than what I have used so far. They are slightly smaller and more rounded lens. I keep looking at them and think they might actualy look a bit better 
When you look at the real things side on they do stick out a bit. I will have to make my mind up soon as I am hoping to get the missing castings soon.
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Comment posted by 15Afitter on Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:23 pm
Hi Brian,
I have one on the way in a few weeks - where do you get your minis from?
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Comment posted by onslaught832 on Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:53 pm
Sorry to but in, but you can usually get these 'Cararama' 1/43 Minis from 'Poundland' type shops ,'TKMax' or Ebay for about 99p of from model shows for a bit more
Phill 
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Comment posted by m davies on Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:44 pm
I believe these are bogie retention fittings in cases of an accident, they prevent untoward rotational forces in minor derailments and prevent damage to traction motor cables, hand brake linkages and blower ducts etc, or complete loss of bogie in serious accident, additionally they retain the bogies during lifting at workshops and reduce strain on the drag boxes and internal fittings, they are fitted to many locos, the BRB (81.85, 86) 25KV locos had them in box or triangular form, finally being lost when flexiciols were later fitted to class 86s.
Also fitted on class 66 as a three link chain, class 60 as steel linkages and class 56 and 58 as wire strops, I'm sure there are many others, but these are the ones I'm most familiar with.
Sorry for the hijack, hope that helps, excellent models as always and just the incentive to start my 7mm MMP locos now that the days are closing in .
Best
Michael
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??? posted on Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:07 pm
Michael You missunderstand me, I dont mean the securing straps/brackets but a bracket thingy on the bogie side. Picture should make this clear.
I got hold of my Cararama mini's on the internet at a place called Antics. They were ?‚??4.95 for a pack of 3. Mind you P+P was ?‚??4 so I thought I better get my monies worth and ordered 2 packs. In the pictures you can see the differance in the headlights from these minis that are more domed than the mini I got that are sold separatly. To be honest I think these domed ones are more acurate so I might be filling the holes a bit to take these rather than the flatter ones that I have in at the moment. Looking at the picture on IS they do stick out a bit.
26+27 Inverness #2 17-1-81.jpg
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Comment posted by Bob-65B on Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:28 pm
These are lifting / transportaton tie's Brian - there's four per bogie two per side. They are (as shown) normally pivoted down out of the way. The intention was that you removed the bottom bolt/pin and pivoted the strap up onto the matching bracket on the solebar too which it was bolted with the pin you removed from the bottom end. This enabled the whole body/bogie assembly to be lifted/moved as a solid unit.....
Bob.
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Comment posted by m davies on Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:55 am
Bob, ahh that makes sense, bit like an early fitting of the ones I mentioned on the class 56, 58 etc, only removable, very clever !.
Brian, indeed I did mistake your question, my apologies. Headlights, looks like the original bezel is the better of the two shapes, but the new lense shape is better formed.
Kindest
Michael
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Comment posted by Cliff Williams on Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:25 am
Brian what are your thoughts on the diagonal sliding cab window?
I told Laurie its way too thick in the kit, have you fed back the same?
Got two on order BTW, Laurie/JLTRT says there are tweaks getting done
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