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coombe junction - moorswater - inserted...episode II


bcnPete

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Update

 

Good evening - following on from last time, it was time to progress the inlaid track area. Not really something I was looking forward to again, as last time it became obvious that it was a two part process, however, the base coat to the remaining area of the dries had to be done, so best get on with it.

 

A few changes from last time to note.

 

Firstly I wanted to try and get a reasonably clean edge, especially to the front edge as looking at the prototype, the concrete has been cast pretty straight with the grass/weeds abutting it. So I prepared strips of cardboard which were pinned to match the profile line of the buildings. At one point I was considering to make these strips the same height as the rail so I could just run a piece of card across the tops to strike off level, not unlike how how they level screed on site with a batten of wood...then I felt I was taking my work home with me...so I resisted.

 

Secondly, I gave a precoat of PVA to all the track areas due to receive their first coat of clay. Perhaps it will help - lets see.

 

Then the clay was applied using the fingers and also occasionally brushed with a weak mix of PVA/water with a paint brush to aid the smoothing process. I also added another level of clay on top of the area undertaken last time, with a little PVA coating thrown in, but I must confess by the time I had reached in between the turnout and frog areas, I was losing the will to live...

 

A attach a few pics...lets see how it looks tomorrow morning...when it has no doubt all cracked again :lol:

 

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Retainers made from card are pinned in place...

 

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Coating of PVA...looks a right mess at this point...

 

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Plan shot of clay applied...a lot of cleaning up required with a screwdriver no doubt...

 

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Once again, a little more encouraging from a lower level...

 

Tootle pip

 

Edit: The Morning after...

 

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Some more cracking...but nothing I can't work with...now,...where's that wet and dry paper?...

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  • RMweb Gold

At least the inset track won't need ballasting. Hmm which is easier inset track or ballasting........? The card retainers seemed to have worked well. All looks very effective.

Don

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When I did the plaster for the inset track at my clay facility I was surprised at how little rail actually needed to protrude and how little flange space was needed. I guess it is one of the advantages to more modern stock as the wheel profile is a lot finer.

 

Looking good!

 

Kindest Regards,

 

Jack

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Don - Thanks - Agreed...there's only a short stretch of ballast required on this board...thankfully.

 

Jack - Thanks also - I am banking on the 2FS flange as I don't want to do too much scraping with a screwdriver....

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  • RMweb Gold

Couldn't one of those hefty 37s just cut their way through?

Don

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Pete... a very informative and interesting read... looks like it's worked! Looks very effective too.

Confused: What are those bits of track thatw e can see in the second, third and last pictures at the far left end... are they on a different level? Have I missed something fundamental in your design?

And what's wrong with ballasting..? It's such an enjoyable process :P .

 

 

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  • RMweb Gold

Couldn't one of those hefty 37s just cut their way through?

 

I am tempted to just clean the rail tops and see if anything actually runs into it and picks any current up :D

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  • RMweb Premium

Doesn't looked to have cracked as much this time Pete. I'm amazed that you have not tried to run anything yet tongue.gif

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What are those bits of track thatw e can see in the second, third and last pictures at the far left end... are they on a different level? Have I missed something fundamental in your design?

 

Hi Jon,

 

Thanks for the comments.

 

The track you are referring to is the small sliding plate that will be partially hidden below the loading bay. As it slides, and is straight, I will do this in card.

 

Up until only recently, I had assumed that locos had entered the dries and run around (as the loop closes off my board width) but they never did...the loads were run around in the loop beneath Moorswater viaduct and then were propelled back in by the loco. In later years this had been suplemented by the English Electric 0-4-0 Sharon and then the converted County 1471 Tractor.

 

Herewith my dilema....when I planned the layout, I decided to compromise on omitting said loop beneath the viaduct and instead model the dries. Locos would arrive, pull foward beneath the covered loading bay and then using my sliding mini traverser run around their trains.

 

So my layout was built to allow a 25, 37 and even a 66 to get around the curves...and then my research revealed that they never did so :O

 

So...in order to allow the layout to function, it will start as this, and then in theory if I build a 4th board, it could include said loop beneath the viaduct to allow me to run around and propel back as per the prototype. This idea was floated during a recent family dinner...and met with a little resistance shall we say, from the other 50% stakeholder of my apartment ;)

 

Sorry for the long reply...I hope that answers your query...I need another espresso now :D

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  • RMweb Gold

I'm amazed that you have not tried to run anything yet tongue.gif

 

Thanks Kris...might try it tonight...look out for a 'beached 25 or 37' in Youtube... :blink:

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Pete, yup... that answers it! Thanks. Sounds like some operational fun to be had eventually.:)

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Jon - Must admit, just running the class 25 up and down the two sidings before I coated them with muck was fun for me...but then I am easily pleased...

 

DD118 - Thank you. Seeing how Board 4 was received at dinner the other night...I thought best not to even raise Board 5 yet (has the incline to Liskeard) If there is any moving to be done it will probably be me, being shunted to another apartment...I had best stick with 3 for now ;)

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Hi Pete.

 

Looks like you've cracked the cracking :D (I never took my coat off....)

 

I'm curious to see how much material you have to remove to allow stock to run. I found I needed to make a fairly large groove for N gauge stock although 2mm will obviously be slightly less.

 

Tom.

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Hi Pete.Looks like you've cracked the cracking :D (I never took my coat off....)

 

:lol: I see we are on the same wavelength Tom ;)

 

Scraping and swearing Fettling of the trackwork will commence this weekend. I will try to get things running smoothly first again and then apply a final topcoat/skim/making good coat of clay after that...am sounding like an architect almost :rolleyes:

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Hi Pete,

 

Glad to see you persevering.

 

A tip that I've found useful for clearing flangeways is to find an old, cheap jewellers screwdriver or similar with a tip roughly 1mm wide and grind half of the the end away to make a stepped shape. Check the longest part of the step with the calipers and grind it until its width is the same as the 2mm flangeway width. Then you have a tool that will scrape any crud from both the top and the side of the rail head as well as clearing the flangeway - much more effective than a piece of wet and dry for any cleaning up after painting or in your case plastering the rails.

 

Regards, Andy

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This is looking really good. Tracks in hard-standing is challenging to model accurately but your technique seems to have done quite well.

 

I'm glad to see you're still gradually working away on this layout.

 

Scott.

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  • RMweb Gold

Andy - Many thanks - that sounds a great tip...I have a number of those screwdrivers...but...no calipers so will have to judge by trial and error with the flanges.

 

Scott - Thanks also. I think it is key to getting the dries to look right.

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  • RMweb Gold

Fettling has commenced in an effort to get trains running again...I feel a blog update coming on :blink:

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