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After the Cull: What Fits The Themes


Ian J.

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As some here will have noticed, I'm having a cull of my stock collection. What's going out are almost all items that don't fit within two themes. In order to help me with making sure I don't sell something relevant to the themes and to help focus future purchases, I thought I'd ask here for input on what stock (locos, carriages, wagons and departmentals) was known to run within them. The two themes are related as they are the same geographically, but differ in period. Note that I'm not planning a model of the entire geographic area! It's just a way of defining my stock list.

 

The area and time periods are pretty much absolute, the intention being to restrict stock and not to find excuses to include stock! There are, however, a few items in my collection that don't fit, but they will stay for sentimental reasons.

 

The two periods are 1961 and 1985, and cover a specific area of the Southern Region.

  • 1961 has a leeway of a couple of years either way, so from 1959 to 1963. This allows some examples of locos and stock that would otherwise have disappeared by 1961.
  • 1985 has more leeway earlier than after, so from 1983 to 1986, but not including the advent of Network SouthEast. Also, the geography differs in that lines that were closed by that time obviously have no prototype to work to.

The geographic extent is centered around the Poole - Bournemouth corridor, with the following extents:

  • To the West, just short of Dorchester Junction on the Southampton & Dorchester line, so that the GWR main line from Weymouth to Castle Cary and all the Western Region stock associated with it is avoided.
  • To the East, up to and including Brockenhurst, but not as such beyond.
  • To the North, just short of Alderbury Junction on the Salisbury & Dorset Junction line. This avoids the stock from the Southampton - Salisbury line, and from the Waterloo - Exeter main line, even though I have a liking for the class 50s!
  • Additionally, anything that ran on the Somerset and Dorset Joint Railway proper is also in scope. However the junctions at Bath, Highbridge, Radstock, Templecombe, etc are not included, but the Southern end at Broadstone and to Bournemouth West is.

I already know a fair amount of the stock, so I've made a list of what I already know below. Some of it may be inaccurate as I could be including things that didn't appear within those time frames (particularly the 1985 one as my memories are strong for the late 80s and early 90s). I suppose what I'm trying to find are the less obvious locos and rolling stock items that made occasional visits, and also a few of the one off appearances that may not have been covered in general information in books and the like about the area.

 

I'll be doing my own research and will add to the blog as and when, I'm not expecting others to go off and actively research for me. I'm also not expecting anyone to reply quickly, this is really intended as a slow running posting to help build up the list as and when other members here remember.

 

1985:

Locos:

  • 08
  • 09
  • 20 (20 901 and 20 904, weedkilling train)
  • 33/0
  • 33/1
  • 33/2
  • 47/0
  • 47/3
  • 47/4
  • 47/8
  • 73/0
  • 73/1
  • 73/2

Carriages (predominantly on the Inter-Regional services from Poole to the North):

  • Mk 1
  • Mk 2 a/b/c/d/e/f
  • Mk 3a Sleepers? (can't remember when these services started)

Units:

  • 4REP
  • 4TC
  • 4VEP

Wagons:

  • 100T Bogie Oil Tanks
  • 4 Wheel LPG Tanks

1961:

 

Locos:

Southern:

  • 700
  • B4
  • E1 4-4-0 (mentioned in 'Rails to Poole Harbour' working out of Salisbury in 1959)
  • G6
  • H15
  • L (Wainwright SECR)?
  • LN Lord Nelson
  • M7
  • MN Merchant Navy (Rebuilt)
  • N
  • N15 King Arthur
  • O2 (only to 1956 at Bournemouth, but I like them and Kernow are doing them so worth having :) )
  • Q
  • Q1
  • S15
  • T9
  • U
  • V Schools
  • WC/BB West Country/Battle of Britain (both original and rebuilt)

Western (both on and from the S&DJR, and from Dorchester and Basingstoke to Bournemouth):

  • 2251 0-6-0
  • 43xx Mogul
  • 57xx Pannier Tank
  • 8750 Pannier Tank?
  • Hall
  • Modified Hall
  • Grange (6815 in 1965, not sure if they appeared before that)

Midland:

  • 2MT Prairie Tank (Ivatt)
  • 2P 4-4-0
  • 3MT Prairie (Stanier) (mentioned in 'Rails to Poole Harbour' off the S&DJR in 1960)
  • 3F Jinty
  • 3F 0-6-0
  • 4F 0-6-0
  • 4MT Mogul (Ivatt) (Not sure these ran during the '59 - '63 period)
  • 5MT 4-6-0 (LMS)
  • 7F 2-8-0 (S&DJR)
  • 8F 2-8-0 (Stanier)
  • L&Y Pug
  • Sentinels (47190 and 47191, at Radstock)
  • S&D 0-4-4T (58086 lasted to 1959)

Eastern:

  • A3 (60112 St Simon, on a railtour in 1963)

BR Standards:

  • 2MT Prairie Tank
  • 3MT Prairie Tank
  • 3MT Mogul (too late?)
  • 4MT Tank
  • 4MT Mogul
  • 4MT 4-6-0
  • 5MT 4-6-0
  • 9F 2-10-0

Diesels (using TOPS classifications):

  • 04
  • 33/0
  • 47/0
  • 73/0

Other:

  • Peckett 0-4-0 ('George Jennings', Parkstone)
  • RS&H 0-4-0 ('Bonnie Prince Charlie' and 'Western Pride', Poole Docks)

Carriages:

 

Pretty much any of the following:

  • Mk 1s
  • Bulleids
  • Maunsells

plus:

  • Gresleys (an Articulated Twin noted in particular)
  • Thompsons
  • Staniers

Wagons:

 

Too many to mention!

 

Books checked:

  • Branch Lines Around Wimborne (Middleton Press)
  • Southern Steam in the South and West (OPC)
  • Celebration of Steam - Hampshire & Dorset (Ian Allan)
  • The Salisbury & Dorset Junction Railway (Kestrel Railway Books)
  • The Changing Railway Scene - Southern Region (Ian Allan)
  • Rails to Poole Harbour (Oakwood Press)
  • Steam Around The Hampshire & Dorset Coast (Ian Allan)
  • The Last Days of Steam in Dorset and Bournemouth (Alan Sutton Publishing)
  • Glory Days: Steam in Dorset (Ian Allan)
  • Dorset Steam (Capital Transport)
  • British Railways Past and Present: Dorset (Gough & Mitchell)
  • Steam Days in Dorset (Waterfront)
  • More Southern Steam - South and West (Bradford Barton)
  • Southern Railways in the Latter Days of Steam (Book Law)
  • Southampton to Bournemouth (Middleton Press)
  • Bournemouth to Weymouth (Middleton Press)
  • Bournemouth to Evercreech Junction (Middleton Press)
  • Burnham to Evercreech Junction (Middleton Press)
  • Bath to Evercreech Junction (Middleton Press)
  • Somerset & Dorset Steam Finale (Runpast Publishing)
  • The Somerset & Dorset Line (Ian Allan)
  • The Somerset & Dorset Remembered Part 2 - Highbridge to Bournemouth (Book Law)
  • The Somerset & Dorset Remembered Part 1 - Bath to Evercreech Junction (Book Law)
  • The Somerset & Dorset in Colour (OPC)

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I am sure that the Grange was around in 1959 and even earlier on the Bournemouth Birkenhead.

I will see what I can find.

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