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Vonzack

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Hi,

 

Just a quick post about turnouts for our layout. We intend to drive all turnouts on the Scenic Boards with slow action motors and have chosen to use TT300s from Traintronics. These are DCC ready motors in that they have an inbuilt accessory decoder and frog switching capability. As far as wiring is concerned, they need to be attached to the Track bus or in our case the dedicated Accessory bus and then just need the usual connections to and from the turnout to perform the frog switching.

 

As the TT300s don't require an accessory decoder to drive them, they can be placed anywhere and our hope is that this will greatly simplify the wiring required. Has anybody got any real world experience of these motors in action, any pros or cons of their operation would be appreciated, before we go too far :O

 

Here's a quick video using an old code 80 insulfrog turnout just to show the action

TT300 Operation.wmv

 

We are also looking to modify our Peco Code 55 turnouts so that the blades are electrically isolated from the frog rails. This stops any micro shorts caused when the turnout blades are moved and the frog polarity hasn't switched. Something that might not be a problem for us, but something that definately won't happen with the mod applied. The turnout blades will be 'tied' electrically to the turnouts stock rails.

 

After much searching around looking for the best way to make the required cut through the turnout rails, I decided to use a Jewellers Saw. As you can see from the pic, the cut is very neat and didn't need much of a tidy up. Again, this is an old code 80 turnout that has been used as a test piece.

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Hopefully, I'll get brave enough to take the saw to a brand new code 55 turnout and post the results.

 

Cheers.

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On the question of TT300s, I've bought nine of them over the past year or two. Of these, one had an internal switch that would only throw consistently in one direction, thus causing a short in the other direction. Apparently, this was known issue and I was recommended to ease the slot on the underside of the pc board where the operating pin protrudes. This didn't really fix it and it was not until I stripped the whole thing down and fiddled with it that I managed to get it to work. At present, that one is sitting in my spares box.

 

Yesterday I powered up the layout after a few weeks without use and found that another one was not working at all. At present, I don't know what the problem is. Hopefully, it is just a loose wire but I won't know until I get under the layout and poke around. Unfortunately, that turnout is not very easy to get at without separating the boards.

 

As you might imagine, TT300s are not my current favourite piece of kit. That said, they work well when they are working.

 

I was also interested to see your approach to isolating the frogs. I've been doing much the same with Peco OO9 turnouts after I found the alternative of replacing the metal joiners at the flexible heel with insulated joiners was not proving to be as reliable as others have suggested.

 

Nick

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Thanks for your comments Nick, much appreciated.

 

Yeah, there seem to be various ways to isolate the frogs, but in N most really affect the point visually with the resulting gaps looking too big. I found the advice to use a jewellers saw on this forum and was very happy with the result.

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A quick update on my second apparent TT300 failure. I eventuallly got under the layout to remove it and found that there was nothing wrong with the point motor. It was just a stuck tiebar, so the motor would not move. So, for now, TT300 are back in my good books.

 

Nick

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