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Moving to P4 (Post 24 (Loft and Track building progress))


Knuckles

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I really need help.

Progress in the loft has finally started to get under way, pics below. Just putting some hard board up to cover the bricks and be a basic sky wall but another backscene will probably cover it anyway. Dabbled for a while weather to use plasterboard or hardboard but decided upon hard board. If it warps I'll just have to redo it!

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Now whilst we are doing the loft I can't do a layout, that goes without saying, but in the mean time after reading Ian Rice's 2 books on trackbuilding and revising the S4 digest sheets I've decided to do a bit of track building; something which will probably be a bit too hard and thus I'm likely to make a pigs ear of it. However, It's a formation planned on the layout in the previus post (Top right of Station left of bridge) so if I make a success of it I can install it sometime probably. If I make a balls up then it'll be good practice to learn from. It's a B7L and single slip to match with straight 60FT sections. The plan in Anyrail in the previus post has a 1/8 Single slip but I'd like to use a 1/7 to shave a bit of space and get a slightly longer bottom platform. So far it seems to be lining up fine with tracks parallel etc. This is where I need help.......

1) Am I correct in thinking the parallel tracks inbetween platforms would be minimum width? I'd like it this way as I like the look, plus would that be ok on 46 and 48" curves either side?

2) Going with above idea I have to get the slip very close to the turnout resulting in the frogs having a smooch. No problem for building (he says), but how in the world am I supposed to keep them seperated for electrical breaks? Electrics is an area where I'm not that great even though I've read up alot on it. Any ideas? :shock:

3) Also should you always use a slip/diamond of matching frog angle to adjacient points? I don't know, but have done it here.

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Note: If I do build it then I'm not sure weather I'll carefull peel the formation off the paper or just cut around the paper and use that to lay giving added strength and reducing breakage risk. I've read both methods are used.

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I've cut the templates so they now join together in alignment best I can. Now it's clear what I mean about joining the check rails from each bit of P&C to form a continious example - is this the best thing to do as they are so close.

The other reason I've took this pic is to show where I think the straight timbering needs to go. how's this slooking? The left frog is supported so 5 monster timbers and for the exit tracks back to standard sleepers?

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Hi Knuckles.

 

Looks to me like the obvious place for an electrical break would be at the LHE of the point check rails. Of course, if you make it continuous, then there's four cuts to make.

 

As for making the check rail continuous, I'm not sure what the individual companies did. However, I have a picture before me* of Liverpool Street in the days of the GER, and it seems to be a case of both being used (although the seperate wing and check rail are almost touching each other by the looks of it).

 

Now....

 

The continuous example in this picture is of a single slip into a double slip, and has eight chairs between the open end and the crossing knuckle. It's the end of a "ladder" of slips.

 

The seperate wing and check rail is of a point into a double slip. The point check rail has 4 chairs, and the wing rail to knuckle of the single slip has 3.

 

So.... in this instance, I'd go for the latter, but as a fan of flowing rails, I'd be tempted to go for the straight through option.

 

*Modellers' Back Track, V1 No.5. Dec 1991 /Jan 1992.

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Thanks, Jan. I had a few responces from S4 forum and glad to say check rails merging into wing rails is apparently a real thing, so I'll probably go for that option seeing as they are so close. The timbering options are still not 100% clear but after a talk I've gone for something. Please see next post. :)

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