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Class 47 detailing project. Conversion of Bachmann 47. "A P4 Brush 4". Part 6 - Bogies finished and Underframe.


Jon020

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Well, it’s been a while since my last proper update on this project... which is now into its 2nd year, so I’ll try to address this omission. The 47 project has been tackled bit by bit; the bogie frames were a task tackled after some consideration as to how to improve on the offerings provided by Bachmann. I picked up some Heljan bogie sideframes (suggested by Jim SW) and whilst these looked nice, I thought that they still lacked form fidelity and fixing them to the Bachmann bogies might be troublesome... although I was sure I’d be able to work something out. The ViTrains bogies looked nice too, but I didn’t see any available as spares. Lima’s ones look good too, but I decided that the Bachmann one could possibly be reworked to remove the erroneous elements and improve on the detail provided. Most of the work was blogged in my last update (part 5) so I’ll not go into what I covered already... but I’ll fill in some bits that I missed, or that I just feel like adding to.

 

With the second bogie modified by removing all incorrect pipework and “lean” springs, the fabricated springs were fitted (as before) and further refinement tackled. The brake mechanism seems to run through the bogie casting, so representative openings were needed. These were drilled out of the frame using a 0.6mm drill bit carefully held with a pin vice.

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Once drilled, a broach was used to elongate the hole to give the correct proportions... and then this repeated for each side and end.

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The sideframe pipework is represented using 0.25mm nickel wire, onto which sections of evergreen “microrod” (that’s what I’ll call it) were added. The rod is carefully drilled out with a 0.3mm drill to form a tube section, and once the eyesight has recovered, these can be cut into sections of the correct length, bit by bit and slid onto the wire.

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The two main sections of pipework can then be attached to the bogie side frame (one side only) using zap-a-gap pink to secure each plastic tube “union” or clip to the bogie frame, bending the wire at the determined-to-be correct point and working outwards from the centre. This is a task to enjoy looking back at and I’m happy not to need to repeat this again anytime soon. Here, both completed bogies show slight variation in pipe run; whether this matters or not is probably irrelevant as the pipe runs will not both be visible simultaneously. It’ll do.

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The bogie was then finished with the brake mechanism manufactured as previously reported (although I’m sure my eyes were more strained this time) and the refined fitting of the PHDesigns steps (which need refinement to fit over the top of the new pipework. This simple refinement just involves small slithers of microstrip added to the step brackets to “lift” them away from the sideframes by about 0.5mm. Once finished, I took a breather.

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Underframe.

The next task to tackle, after some slight distractions through repainting the ends of the Craven DMU that’s also vying for my attention (Railmatch yellow rather than Bachmann yellow is less orangey), and a re-badging of a 3-rail Hornby Dublo West Country... I decided that it was time to tackle the underframe tanks. I’d seen some photos previously of how these could be corrected, but I was dammed if I could find them.

After a busy weekend that involved a day in London for a wedding banquet ... with a trip to the East end first... and a quick “grab” shot as we passed through Liverpool St Stn... (Mrs Jon020 tolerating this... although I had to explain that it was a “loco”

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... much nicer than our boring units)

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... and a "drive" the DLR

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... and then all the snowy weather had finished its fatherly distractions such as path/driveway/road clearing of snow, and the mandatory sledging supervision... and of course the sledge-test, to make sure the slope was safe :D ,

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...attention could be returned to more mundane workbench activities. To this end I did a search on google images to find some suitable reference material and finally, through the pages of the old RMWeb, I found a thread covering this subject. The problem here is that because I’m depicting an early generator in 1974 condition, the full tanks would be represented; I’d taken some shots of 47401 at Swanwick last year, but this has lost most of the tanks so wasn't much help. However, the RMWeb thread assisted and I had some material to work from.

Wow... these tanks were going to need more work than I’d bargained on. However, after an hour or so in contemplation looking at the photos and the plastic lump that is the Bachmann offering, I made a start.

The first thing that strikes me, having reworked the Class 55 tanks previously (thanks Brian) was the need to remove the unnecessary webbing between the frame and tanks/batt boxes... phew no Lithium Cobalt Oxide on these babies ;-). I attacked one end of the moulding with a fine saw and then drilled/cut out the material between the two... this first step looking reasonable and not resulting in too many broken drills or sliced finger tips. The frame/bracket lightening holes were also opened out using a 0.4mm drill and broach... sanded clean after with some 1000 grade paper.

Then I cut the “wrong” end mouldings off, again with the saw blade to leave a workable shape. The end seen on the right here was cut vertically and horizontally to leave the upper face and bracket in place; the left hand end was just sliced off with a vertical cut.

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On one side, there is a small panel with two hose fittings or unions at the bottom of the tanks (drains or fillers?) and to provision for these, I cut away a corner of both “lumps” using a combination of drill/file, cut and an abrader (dremel type thingy).

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I then closed the gap between the two tanks, inserting two strips of evergreen strip to each side, trimmed to shape, effectively closing the gap nicely. Two extra thin pieces were added as bases for the panel.

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Inside these were blanked off with two small quadrant shaped pieces of the same material... all affixed with pink zap-a-gap.

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The base plate was filed flush with the tank sides and a back piece attached across the gap (per prototype photo references)

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The unions were made from plastic rod, drilled out with a 0.6mm drill, superglued in place. A 0.4mm drill was used to put a hole through the base and a length of short 0.4mm wire inserted for the pipework. A slither of plastic cut to shape made the centre cover.

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I then took my thinnest sheet of plastic card and with some 120 grade paper thinned a piece if it down further... to the extent that light passed through it and allowed a measure of where the thin material was.

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From this I cut a rectangular section and affixed it to below the panel for the lower cover.

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I then carried on removing the rest of the material from above the other tank/batt box,

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....extended the brackets with thinned micro strip (holes drilled with 0.3mm drill) and with two pieces of micro strip, corrected the shape of the battery boxes.

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One important task was the replacement of the fuel gauges which are too big and, slightly more importantly, in the wrong place. I cut/filled/sanded the existing ones off, polishing with 1000 grade paper, and then set about working out how to fit new ones. I thought about using the spare “test” etch deltic fuel gauges that Brian had given me... they’re very nice but a bit big for the old 47. So... I drilled a largish hole in approximately the right place, inserted a length of plastic rod thinned to give an interference fit, recessed (not flush) with the outer face, drilled a hole through the centre of this... about 1mm I think... and inserted another length of thin rod through this. This was then filed flush and a recess drilled (cut) into its face to represent the dial face. It’s not brillian, but with some paint hopefully it’ll look reasonable. After repeating the same process for all the items with the other side (without the additional panel as it’s not there), I added the new end “shapes” with a laminate of thicker plastic card cut to shape. I closed out the cut outs at one end with an angle piece of strip and then added a thick T piece to represent the continuation of the attachment bracing... superglued in place with a mix of zap-a-gap green and pink.

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A similar, shorter section was added at the other end... for the same reason... and inspected thoroughly.

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Then it was just a case of referring to numerous photos and adding various small items such as blocks, unions on brackets (tube on micro strip) taps (0.4mm wire and micro rod and micro strip) and those big rectangular blocks that hang near the bogie (plastic card with micro strip framing.

All pipe runs were added using a mix of 0.6, 0.4 and 0.25mm wire, drilled and glued in place accordingly.

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Finally, a few test-fits to the chassis frame and body were used. I’ve a Bachmann 57 to hand, which I keep looking at to see where the bogie sits and I think I’ll have enough clearance, although that big pipe will foul the bogie of it turn too far – it’ll will not have to then will it!

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I think that the end result is quite reasonable, and that with a little primer to blend it all in it should look half decent. I still need to get the knack of using the new Daylight LED spot lights that came with my mini photo studio (although I changed the “hot” bulbs with the LED daylights)... because the white bits in the photo are over exposed... I’ll grab some better ones at some point.

This project has turned into a bit of another mammoth exercise, and I would like to continue to thank all who have helped my sanity with suggestions of where to look for details ... and especially to those on the Class 47 group on here... the hosts of the Class47.co.uk website and the new 47 group on facebook (yes the social network can have its uses)

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That’s all for now... hope it’s enough to be getting on with :(

 

Jon

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The most inspirational blog on the forum for a very long time. I don't like diesels but the attention to detail you bestow on your models is breath taking. Simply wonderful work.

I take it your not going to install Justin's sprung bogies on this loco?

 

Mike

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Stunning Jon.

 

Good to see you posting again...but always worth the wait.

 

Incredible attention to detail and the way you methodically research the subject is testament to your tenacity and perseverance.

 

I can now start to imagine seeing this at the BHMRC exhibition in May and I think it will give the already fantastic Nimbus a run for its money :D

 

Glad you found time to enjoy the white stuff too...

 

Pete (a duff fan)

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The most inspirational blog on the forum for a very long time. I don't like diesels but the attention to detail you bestow on your models is breath taking. Simply wonderful work.

I take it your not going to install Justin's sprung bogies on this loco?

 

Mike

Hi Mike, that's a very kind thing of you to say... not sure I can accept the sentiment without blushing a little; there are many others that I'd put there first, but thanks all the same. As for springing... I did buy a kit from In Penberth (last blog entry) and gave it a good look, wimper, and put it away again. One day yes... but not right now. To be honest, I think I strive to get the locos looking as good as I can.. something I tried to strive for in pencil previously

... and now in 3-D. Smooth running is a nicety for me... and I'll nto be looking to run the locos over long distances, so there's no immediate need... so for now I'll just sit in admiration and Justin's sprung diesels... and Ian's kits.

Stunning Jon.

 

Good to see you posting again...but always worth the wait.

 

Incredible attention to detail and the way you methodically research the subject is testament to your tenacity and perseverance.

 

I can now start to imagine seeing this at the BHMRC exhibition in May and I think it will give the already fantastic Nimbus a run for its money :D

 

Glad you found time to enjoy the white stuff too...

 

Pete (a duff fan)

Hi Pete, yes hopefully by May, this will all be coming back togther and if I get it right, it will not stand out against NIMBUS, but will happily compliment it... that's the way to do it isn't it - nothing stands out... however, that does mean that I need the same level of detail in everything, so yes, there's a rod for my back if ever there was one. Thanks for the kind comments.

Yes the boys enjoyed the snow... not sure if you recognise the hill... its the stretch at the bottom of the hill that has the Jack and Jill Windmills at the top. Quite busy on the Sunday and whilst there were a few bumps and tears, there was no lasting harm done to anyone - so much for health and safety ;-)

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Diamonds, quite simply!  

Thanks Mikkel... that made me smile! Id better make sure the rest of it stands up to scrutiny then ;-)

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Ive acquired a Lima 47 recently and think that may be a test bed to really go to town on detailing, very nice work Jon

 

NL

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Jon these modifications are a triumph, an exquisite work of art - a testmant to patience and eyesight and show a real panache for attention to detail. I am dumbstruck with admiration! Makes my clumsy more artistic efforts in G-scale look like childrens toys! What a level of work to aspire to - you are an inspiration :)

 

On top of that, glad to see and read a balanced life - it's sometimes all to easy to fall into a self centred selfish trap with a hobby as engrossing and insular as model railways - family are really where it's important.

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Absolutely awesome Jon, an absolute credit to you.

 

Thanks Ian... it'll be a Finsbury Park machine... so should retain some of the appeal ;-)

Ive acquired a Lima 47 recently and think that may be a test bed to really go to town on detailing, very nice work Jon

 

NL

 

Thanks Nick. There's lots to be said for the Lima 47. The bogie frames are good as is the overall shape. Some work around the windscreens and some replacement of moulded details will get this a long way towards matching most of today's offerings. Have a look at James Wells blog for details which might be useful such as this one

Jon these modifications are a triumph, an exquisite work of art - a testmant to patience and eyesight and show a real panache for attention to detail. I am dumbstruck with admiration! Makes my clumsy more artistic efforts in G-scale look like childrens toys! What a level of work to aspire to - you are an inspiration :)

 

On top of that, glad to see and read a balanced life - it's sometimes all to easy to fall into a self centred selfish trap with a hobby as engrossing and insular as model railways - family are really where it's important.

 

Thanks James... it's good to see you on here too... and I'm still enjoying your G scale work... it SO BIG !!! It's not clumsy at all; it'd be nice to see that 66 project of your resurrected at some point - it gave me some ideas... but the big stuff does have an appeal; but then again, so does the small stuff and the pull of 2mm is becoming quite strong. For now I'll stick with 4mm, but I'm not quite sure how futile resistance is ;-)

Yes the life balance is important, and I share what I do here with my boys; whether they think I'm barmy or not I don't know, at least they don't say they think I am. Then again, we've just read another two chapters of "The Restaurant at the end of the universe" as their bedtime reading... the bit when Marvin is left to stop the Frogstar scout Robot class D "Tank"... ending in the line, "what a depressing stupid machine"... they did laugh :-).... and now all is quiet and I can tackle those buffers.

Yet again mate you've out done yourself!!

 

You really do need to get a life though!! ;-)

 

Rob

Cheers Rob. Glad you like it, despite it being a duff ;-) Life... ah yes.... a balance if ever there was one. Don't worry, i'll be doing some normal things soon too - like diesel galas ;-)

Hope you're ok... and hope to see you soon.

 

 

Thanks all....

 

Jon

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Absolutely superb stuff Jon - awesome in the extreme! This has made me think about looking at the pipework around the battery boxes and executing them on my N gauge model. A true inspiration to all.

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