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bcnPete

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Good afternoon - Various bits of progress this week on the layout, and with 'The Outlaws' just arrived back in town for another week, things may move a little slower during this period.

 

First up, trackwork. The first track laid was to the 'mainline' which is the one that folds up/down to increase/minimise the width of the layout. The sleepers that had been pre-painted in the last entry were laid with easitrac white adhesive (it sets pretty rapidly) and a few brass lost wax sleepers have been positioned at the ends for strength and also for wiring connections between boards - Note to self: remember to run the disc cutter through the brass sleepers to prevent head scratching when the controller shorts...

 

I had wanted to drill small holes in the edges of the brass sleepers to locate some droppers (I think I recall Bryn doing this and it was very neat) but the holes I drilled were too small and so I reverted to turning the sleepers upside down and trying to solder in the small preformed holes beneath the chairs :nono: Of course, having tinned the base, once I turned it over, I realised all the solder had flooded and closed up the chairs :no: so that was one sixpack of those trashed...so I will have a rethink on that...

 

Secondly, the platform base was formed generating said bay. This has been built from 1mm white card and I am not sure how I will develop this. I normally use wet n dry on the surface, but this time I was tempted to use the scalescenes platform download as I can also use the brick bases...have used them for my sons 4mm layout but did find they seem to delaminate after a while...again, need to rethink that...

 

The track was then laid for the bay platform road as above and this time a few holes were predrilled beneath so positioned for the wire droppers.

 

By chance in the rummage box I managed to find a 'Cockrobin' 2 aspect signal that must be over 20+ years old so I positioned it to see how it looks. This is only a placeholder, as Matt from Absolute Aspects is making two signals at present, but it's not bad for its age...I recall at the time it was quite a breakthrough as most N signals had been grain o wheat bulbs and these were bright LED's. Not sure if it still works as I have lost the instructions. I am no electrician, but there's a green wire and a red wire...which I'm pretty sure I know what they relate too :D...but the Blue one :O Must be the power...but I can't remember if it was 12vDC or other...seem to remember a resistor in the mix too...sorry, am rambling now...

 

Lastly, I marked out positions for the canopy, which on the prototype seems to cover only half of the platform in the bay. This suits me, as the layout was conceived so that this would sit on one platform half once folded in the boxfile. The canopy has a pretty decorative awning too (Thanks for the pic Nick) and probably the best way to deal with this would be an etch. Trouble is, will I get my act together to draw it in CAD and see whether any other modellers have spare space on their etches to get it fabricated in time for the exhibition? The legs and support structure will be Evergreen I-section and to check on heights for the roof I have mocked up a small test canopy framework. Using an oblique pic of the awning found on the web, I scaled it and printed and have attached it to the ends of the test canopy...as you will see from the pics, it all fits nicely...so all those drunken sketches done at high altitude working out dimensions seem to have paid off to date.

 

In other news, some more rolling stock arrived from Hattons today, including a nice rake of Bachfar Seacow/sealions, some TTA's and parcels stock. I will save this for another update perhaps once they have been weathered etc.

 

Lastly, after reading that interesting thread running at present on layout names, I thought I had better adjust the name of the layout to Paddock Wood Bay (in a boxfile) as after all, as with Kyle was, its only an extract of the place, which I hope conveys the location and I don't want peeps to arrive at the exhibition to see Paddock Wood and expect to see a four track mainline with two bays, freight sidings etc etc :blush: So Paddock Wood Bay it is from now on.

 

Enough of this waffle...a few pics to better demonstrate...

 

EDIT: Thanks to Kris, I now have a copy of the wiring instructions for the signal - FYI, The power is 12v DC and the blue wire runs through a resistor to the negative and the positive connects to the chosen switch.

 

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Overall shot showing progress...

 

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a few predrilled holes...as I normally forget to do this...

 

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With 4CEP in the bay platform...

 

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SR rail built buffers and track components have been ordered to complete this...

 

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The Cockrobin 2mm signal...

 

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And with the 4CEP...

 

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Plan view in the box folded back...

 

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Signal and canopy sit just within size constraints...

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Have you tried a solder sucker or solder wick on the brass sleepers? Either might get the solder out fairly easily but I personally prefer the latter.

 

As for the blue wire I guess it is a common anode or cathode. If you have a multimeter then it probably has a diode tester on it? I've used mine quite a bit for the signal I've been building because it supplies 3v and probes are easy to prod onto the wires. If you put it on the wrong way it won't light. If you put on the other way and it doesn't light then you have either a duff light/electrical connection or not enough voltage.

 

 

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Nice work Pete, its comimg along very quickly!

 

I had one of those Cockrobin signals, bought from MG sharp a long long time ago. I remember being particularly pleased that I managed to get it up and working without blowing it up! They were the bees knees in signalling! Weren't they bought by Roger Murray in the end?

 

Tom.

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Thanks Rich - I don't have a solder sucker / wick or multimeter I'm afraid. Hopefully the new signals will come with idiot proof instructions for me whilst my brother has a multimeter so I might take the signal back to the UK on my next visit...

 

If it's not a stupid question, how do you get the layout out of the box?

 

Thanks Tony - Not a stupid question at all. At the moment I turn the box upside and give it a shake :jester: but I do need to consider that...I think it may need a couple of fabric straps placed beneath which can be hoisted up to remove it...if that makes sense?...

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I had one of those Cockrobin signals, bought from MG sharp a long long time ago. I remember being particularly pleased that I managed to get it up and working without blowing it up! They were the bees knees in signalling! Weren't they bought by Roger Murray in the end?

 

Tom, hi - Many thanks - I was beginning to think whilst I was looking at the signal that maybe it was Roger Murray...I can ask Matt at AA if he knows.

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I think that I have a copy of the instructions somewhere for the 2 and the 4 aspect signals (I have examples of both).

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I think that I have a copy of the instructions somewhere for the 2 and the 4 aspect signals (I have examples of both).

 

Thanks Kris - PM received and PM actioned :D

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Lovely work Pete! Your layout could tempt me into SR n gauge at some stage. Very neat.

 

Cheers

Simon

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Lovely work Pete! Your layout could tempt me into SR n gauge at some stage. Very neat.

 

Hi Simon - Many thanks - Go for it...Let's hope that Bachmann 2 EPB gets scaled down too...

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Looking great already mate! I'm really tempted to do a "on the side" box file layout alongside Par. Again, I'm being inspired. Looking forward to seeing Paddock Wood Bay in the flesh! Now, an NSE liveried 4-CEP would look pretty good too!!

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Hi Simon - Many thanks - Go for it...Let's hope that Bachmann 2 EPB gets scaled down too...

 

 

Only if is GREEN :derisive:

 

Pete think you should put a request on SEMG for a decent shot of the valances/awning bound to be some one there who lives in Paddock Wood :help:

 

Thanks Rich - I don't have a solder sucker / wick or multimeter I'm afraid. Hopefully the new signals will come with idiot proof instructions for me whilst my brother has a multimeter so I might take the signal back to the UK on my next visit...

 

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stripped stranded wire from a mains cable will work as wick if you flux it (you heat the wire to draw the solder up a little at a time cutting of soldered wire as you go)

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Looking great already mate! I'm really tempted to do a "on the side" box file layout alongside Par. Again, I'm being inspired. Looking forward to seeing Paddock Wood Bay in the flesh! Now, an NSE liveried 4-CEP would look pretty good too!!

 

Thanks Jeremy - Do it...there small fun projects that take up little space - NSE? Don't do toothpaste me... :no:

 

Only if is GREEN :derisive:

 

I won't be drawn Nick?.. :nono:

 

Thanks for the tip re the wick...need to check the rubbish bin first for the lost wax sleepers...

 

BTW, what's SEMG? South East something Group? Or is it Southern EMUs Mortified by Green? :lol:

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Thanks Jeremy - Do it...there small fun projects that take up little space - NSE? Don't do toothpaste me... :no:

 

 

 

I won't be drawn Nick?.. :nono:

 

Thanks for the tip re the wick...need to check the rubbish bin first for the lost wax sleepers...

 

BTW, what's SEMG? South East something Group? Or is it Southern EMUs Mortified by Green? :lol:

 

 

spoil sport :jester:

 

SEMG is a yahoo group http://www.semgonline.com/ is the web site surprised your not a member :no: :no:

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Thanks Jeremy - Do it...there small fun projects that take up little space - NSE? Don't do toothpaste me... :no:

 

 

If I do it, it will have to be an adventure into 2mmFS. I tempted by the Farish A1, maybe a portion of Grantham shed or something...

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surprised your not a member

 

Just seeing the colour of the homepage makes the little hairs on my neck stand up...:laugh: Thanks for the link...I'll ponder joining that...

 

If I do it, it will have to be an adventure into 2mmFS. I tempted by the Farish A1, maybe a portion of Grantham shed or something...

 

Sounds good...although if starting in 2mmFS, diesels are easier to convert...how about a portion of St Blazey instead?...37's, 47's and 50's on shed...

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Sounds good...although if starting in 2mmFS, diesels are easier to convert...how about a portion of St Blazey instead?...37's, 47's and 50's on shed...

 

Now there's an idea!!!!

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You make it look so easy, Pete - but we all know there's skill and neatness involved in your work. Great stuff.

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You make it look so easy, Pete - but we all know there's skill and neatness involved in your work. Great stuff.

 

Many thanks for your kind comments Mikkel...

 

Current views of the station on National Rail (hover around and click for photos)

 

Thanks Chris - That's a great find...some very useful stuff there...:yes:

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Now there's an idea!!!!

 

...and the Diesels in the Duchy layout for inspiration too Jeremy ;)

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Hi Pete -

 

Coming along nicely! Agree with the 'Green' comments - just a shame 'Gods Wonderful didn't get that far!

 

Mind you, Paddock Wood might be good for 'multi-period' with 'Dapol' releasing the 'Schools' & Maunsells in 'N'?

 

Regs

 

Ian

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Agree with the 'Green' comments

 

Assume that's my Green comments and not Nick's :P

 

Thanks Ian - Pretty sure it won't be backdated...perhaps a steam special passin' thru...at the moment I am winding the clock forward in terms of recent acquisitions...

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Back to the canopy, if you look in your copy of Bygone Kent Volume 3 No.2 published 1982, Meresborough Books, there's a pic of Paddock Wood station, in an article all about Kentish station valances by Mike Fenton. The canopy is the 'tulip' pattern. It also shows a train arriving from Strood with the head code '02' on platform 3. Apparently this pattern is also seen at Maidstone West, Yalding, and Tunbridge Wells Central.

 

Can't scan it (or even see it) as it's back in Kent, and I'm not, but I did vaguely remember that article, and got my research assistant's assistant to dig it out. Hit the jackpot with PW being one of the featured ones.

 

or order a copy! search for "valance" on this page http://bygonekent.org.uk/index/r

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my research assistant's assistant

 

:O :o You mean there is a team researching this?

 

Thanks again Chris - another top link...will follow that up...

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:O :o You mean there is a team researching this?

 

Well not so much a team, as my 76-year-old mother (who incidentally rode the footplate of a "Spamcan" when she used to date a driver from Ramsgate - well before my time)

[smiley face with permed grey hair shovelling coal]

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