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You are misreading the instructions for lamping, the code you quote is for a train on the main line at the junction about to go down the branch! You should be looking at a J or K code once on the branch.

 

I've got a picture somewhere of the sandbox arrangements, I'll look it out if it's any use.

Hi Tim,

 

Thanks for clarifying that. I'd certainly got the wrong end of the stick. Yes, I see what you mean. One lamp either above the left or right hand buffer.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

Mark

 

Couldn't find how to post an image here, so I've put it in my gallery at

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/image/50571-pannier-at-didcot/

may be useful.

Looking at Tim's photo and this one:

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/51212-little-didcot/page-16

 

Roberts etch is right and to scale. What appears to be wrong is that the sandbox filler lids are too far forward on the Bachmann model.  There looks like there's a small additional linkage in between the rod and the filler lid.

 

I'll investigate further and will be in Devon over the weekend so hopefully I'll get a look at the 57xx on the SDR.

 

By the looks of things the Bachmann lids need cutting off and fixing a few mm back.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

That said Mark...its lookin' damn fine this pannier.

 

Before you know it, you will have talked yourself into that 7mm Lionheart one

As regards lamping it's a singe lamp above the right hand buffer for Class K (which included a 'branch freight') or one lamp above the left hand buffer for a Class J.  A quick look at the 1947 service timetable indicates that most branch freights in the West Country at that time ran as Class K - so a single lamp above the right hand buffer as you see it facing the engine/as a Signalman would see it as the train approaches.

 

I don't know where you got your original code from code from as it was the code for Class C - a parcels or perishables train or an express freight.

 

BTW GWR overalls do seem to have been quite dark judging by pics but they undoubtedly faded on washing.

I,ve not found it necessary to move the sandbox filler lid, but it may well bear checking out, Mark. I do have some detail photos at home, which I'd be happy to share if you don't get any at the weekend. There is indeed a linkage from the rod to the top of the sandbox filler lid.

That said Mark...its lookin' damn fine this pannier.

 

Before you know it, you will have talked yourself into that 7mm Lionheart one

 

Thanks Pete,

 

Don't tempt me!

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

As regards lamping it's a singe lamp above the right hand buffer for Class K (which included a 'branch freight') or one lamp above the left hand buffer for a Class J.  A quick look at the 1947 service timetable indicates that most branch freights in the West Country at that time ran as Class K - so a single lamp above the right hand buffer as you see it facing the engine/as a Signalman would see it as the train approaches.

 

I don't know where you got your original code from code from as it was the code for Class C - a parcels or perishables train or an express freight.

 

BTW GWR overalls do seem to have been quite dark judging by pics but they undoubtedly faded on washing.

 

 

Thanks for the clarification Mike,

 

Believe it or not it's from the slip in a packet of Springside GWR lamps.

 

Bit worrying really. It states the following:

 

'Ordinary frieght, mineral or ballast train stopping at local stations. Branch freight or Pilot trip.'

 

The instructions are correct for a 'J' code but a 'K' code isn't listed.

 

Thanks for the info re: uniforms too.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

I,ve not found it necessary to move the sandbox filler lid, but it may well bear checking out, Mark. I do have some detail photos at home, which I'd be happy to share if you don't get any at the weekend. There is indeed a linkage from the rod to the top of the sandbox filler lid.

 

Thanks Tim,

 

I'll see if I can use my charms down at the engine shed on the SDR to get a few reference shots. I haven't seen this Pannier in her LT livery either so it will be good.

 

If not your photos will be good to see-Thankyou for the offer.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

Hi Mark,

 

They are great little models to work on the Bachmann panniers and you are doing a cracking job as well.

 

If you want pannier pictures then this website, run by No. 3650s crew chief, will help. I know she's an 8750 and not a 57XX but the chassis are essentially the same.

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/kevin.dare/index.html

 

The other thing missing from these lovely models are the 3 spare lamp irons that live on the running plate between the injector and the toolbox on the fireman's side. I hope this helps!

 

All the best,

 

Castle

Hi Mark,

 

They are great little models to work on the Bachmann panniers and you are doing a cracking job as well.

 

If you want pannier pictures then this website, run by No. 3650s crew chief, will help. I know she's an 8750 and not a 57XX but the chassis are essentially the same.

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/kevin.dare/index.html

 

The other thing missing from these lovely models are the 3 spare lamp irons that live on the running plate between the injector and the toolbox on the fireman's side. I hope this helps!

 

All the best,

 

Castle

 

Thanks Castle,

 

I'm sorry I didn't acknowledge your photos in my post.

 

That will be an interesting link thankyou.  Again-I realised the spare lamp irons were there and was thinking of adding them.  You've read my mind!

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

Three spare lamp irons? Some had only two....

One thing that does stand out from the Bachmann moulding is how better the rear window bars are compared to the latest Hornby 42xx offering.How many years between them ?

 

Excellent work Mark.

excellent work there Mark, looking a little cracker. If you need any pannier pics and details, give me a shout, i have a shed load of photos that  used from when i was doing my 5 inch gauge ones, and i did full all angle surveys of several engines, so if you need any detail photos i may well have something!

 

you'll also find that because of their many and varying builders, Theres several detail differences, you only start noticing when you start looking closely to detail, something i've found to my cost on occasion! haha

 

Great stuff again,

 

Mark

One thing that does stand out from the Bachmann moulding is how better the rear window bars are compared to the latest Hornby 42xx offering.How many years between them ?

 

 

I haven't seen a 42xx in the flesh but I can imagine. The Bachmann 57xx is a beautiful model as I mentioned in Part 1.  These little tweaks are like guilding the lilly so to speak.

 

No further work on 9717 until I observe the SDR 57xx tomorrow all being well.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

........If you need any pannier pics and details, give me a shout, i have a shed load of photos that  used from when i was doing my 5 inch gauge ones, and i did full all angle surveys of several engines, so if you need any detail photos i may well have something!

 

 

Thanks Mark for those kind words.  I think we're getting there.  Hopefully, I'll suss out the sandbox pull rods tomorrow at the SDR.

 

But if not I'll the offer of photos would be great. Thankyou.

 

By the way-your 5 in gauge model is looking brilliant.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

Hiya Mark

 

No probs, if you need anything, PM me an i can post them somewhere or alternatively email anything you need.

 

I made a new set of sandbox of pull rods myself for the 5 inch one, though have only made the cams so far, havn't been able to get hold of any suitable section for the rods. My stuff tends to be smaller than what is common at model engineering shows! haha. But its sitting in the lounge looking at me, i've told myself i'm not allowed to touch it till after the exams! But after that we'll get the odd running issue sorted, get it a proper steam certificate (i was running at a private track and had an inspector check it before hand the other weekend!) and do a bit of detailing work, a proper new cab, pipe work, maybe another injector, lamp irons, and LT fittings like sleet brushes and trip cocks, before lining it when its all apart, maybe as late as september!

 

but as i say, if you need anything, always pleased to help another pannier fan

 

Mark

I thought I'd posted a photo or two of the pannier in LT livery, but I can't find them! Anyway, I did see her a few weeks ago, and the effect is stunning!