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Pre-nationalisation days


Barry Ten

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I used to be a fairly disciplined modeller with an interest fixed firmly on the BR steam era, mostly the Western Region, but with a bit of LMR for good measure. To that end, when I got back into the hobby in the 90s, I went to a lot of trouble to repaint and modify most of the pre-nationalisation models that I'd acquired during my childhood, such that they fitted into the later period. However, such commitment to one period was not to last - I soon "cracked" in both directions. When Hornby bought out their Class 50 I had to have one, even though I had nothing else to run with it that was suitable for the BR blue diesel period. That was the thin end of the wedge in that direction, but around the same time I also made the mistake of building a Coopercraft Mink, which I painted GWR grey for no other reason than it seemed a nice change from finishing all my models in BR condition. Before very long I was building more GWR stock to keep the Mink company, as well as resurrecting a box full of tatty, damaged GWR wagon kits built in my teens.

 

After that, my modelling began to diverge in three or more directions, and that's before I acquired some sectorisation stuff, some post-privatisation models, and even (thanks to the recent Bachmann limited editions) some lovely pre-grouping models. There's no hope for me, basically, but then again I am happy to consider myself as a collector as well as a modeller, enjoying a nice model for the sake of it, even if it doesn't fit into any prior modelling interest.

 

The downside to all this is cupboards full of models, far too many to ever run on the layout at any one time. What happens is that I'll get stuck running one era, often for more than a year, before I get the impulse to pack it all away and get out some different stock. Sometimes the push can come from a new model which demands more than just a test run, or the desire to see some older stock out of their boxes. Personally I find the BR era more easy to relate to, as although I have no memories of steam, I can connect to the atmosphere in photos from the 50s and 60s, perhaps because so many parts of the country still looked that way even well into the 70s. The pre-nationalisation period seems more remote to me, mostly glimpsed in B&W, and of course much of the photography from that era concentrates on the locomotives more than the "bigger picture", which to me is far more interesting. I also find myself dwelling on the political factors which were at large before and after the first world war - the shadows of conflict seem unavoidable. The men and women of the Edwardian period could have had little idea of the horrors to come in 1914, while the "roaring twenties" were soon to come to an abrupt crash with the great depression ...

 

Of course, the fifties and sixties had the spectre of global nuclear war, so I suppose things were no more rosy then. Ah well, it's just a hobby - but am I alone in thinking of these larger issues when considering the wider lives of our model citizens?

 

On a more cheerful tack, the pre-nationalisation period certainly seems to offer more colour the BR steam era, especially where goods stock is concerned, and I'm a sucker for GWR brown and grey vehicles, as well as private owner wagons. So just for a change, I've swapped the layout's stock back a decade or two from the usual formations, which is a good incentive to fiddle around and weather some pristine locos and goods stock, as well as attach couplings, and so on.

 

Hornby's Grange is a terriric model, in my view. I've two of them, both getting on for a decade old, and they hold up as well as any new models, as well as running superbly. This one was DCC fitted for many years, but since I'm trying to standardise on pure DC for my GWR models, I've now removed the decoder and put the blanking plate back in. The horseboxes are Parkside and Hornby.

 

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Still waiting for the road. More brown stock behind the loco, almost all kit-built, but all needing some gentle weathering.

 

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Later, after the Grange has cleared the single line section, a 72xx plods onto the up road with a ridiculously colourful train of private owners. Over a period of years I built about 20 Welsh-themed PO wagons from Slaters and Powside kits, which are great fun to make and can be done and dusted in an evening while sitting in front of the television. This Hornby 72xx couldn't be more out of the box if it tried; I think all I've done so far is remove the tension lock couplings. However, it will get a smidge of detailing and weathering in due course. Like the Grange, it's running on plain DC and (after a little initial roughness) is now a very smooth performer. There's been some criticism of the lack of axle bearings on these models, but my take is let's wait and see - my 42xx is still sweet as a nut after a year of moderate running. Of course, if the chassis starts wearing out in a few years, the doubters will have a good case for complaint, especially as they can point to models like the Grange as a proven, durable design.

 

I decided to standardise on DC, incidentally, because the majority of my difficult cases - in terms of DCC conversion - were pre-nationalisation models. Those that have already had decoders installed are getting them swapped out, which frees up the decoders for the later models. I could only do this if the layout had been wired to allow DC as well as DCC running, of course, but being very simple it only needs a few isolating sections and only one loco moves at a time. The switch from DCC to DC is via a single DPDT switch on the console and in five years of operation I've yet to suffer any mishaps to locos or controllers, despite some of the fear-mongering you read about in some quarters...

 

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A little later, an Aberdare comes through on the down line with a goods train. This is one of three kit-built GWR models that I bought four years ago - the others are an 0-6-0 Beyer goods and a Taff Vale A class. I don't know too much about them, except that they are built and painted to a high standard, although the detailing is fairly sparse, perhaps reflecting the kits from which they were derived. The Aberdare needs a little attention to the pickups, but is otherwise a fine performer, and a model we're unlikely to see in RTR form, given the fact that none of them survived into BR days or are represented in preservation or planned as a new-build. All three models were boxed and named for a Mr "D N Payne", incidentally, which is part of the reason Paynestown was given the name it had ... but my family also has a Payne connection, which is why the name also shows up on my American layout as "Paynesville". I don't know if Mr Payne was the owner or the builder of the locos. All these kits have a rather high current draw, the Beyer being the worst offender of the three, so I may look at remotoring one or more of them at some point.

 

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Close-up on the Aberdare - sparse but nicely built and painted.

 

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Hope this little trip back to GWR days has been enjoyable, and thanks for reading.

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  • RMweb Gold

Looking great Al and a very enjoyable read.   Those new chimneys on the station building are a huge improvement.  Now if you could just go back in time another 40 years or so, then the layout would be perfect! :-)

 

Dave

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  • RMweb Gold

I agree with Wenlock and Job, it's all lovely, Al, but I really am quite taken with that station building, very nice work.

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  • RMweb Gold

A great post Al.Fabulous modelling all round and how I nodded at your Grange remark.I just wish Hornby would do a run in postwar livery.Lovely looking brown stock too.

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  • RMweb Gold

Great post and some beautiful modelling.  It's really good to see this pre-nationalisation post.  

 

More photos please! 

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I agree, more of the same please.

 

Maybe include Knight of the Grand Cross in the next one?

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Thanks for the encouraging words, all. Nothing running at the moment, though - seems as if my ancient transformer has stopped working for some reason, leaving no power for the DC controller or the point motors. Wedding anniversary today, so out tonight - will investigate later in the week, hopefully.

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Hi Al.

This looks fantastic. I particularly like how seamlessly the scene flows into the backdrop (road looks very good). Good to see the Aberdare from the D Payne stud. I'd really liked the Taff Vale A Class when I saw it run on Paynestown. I picked up an 850ST from the same source and it's a lovely model which runs pretty well (although not often enough). I'd post a pic apart from the fact I suspect it might be bad form to do so on someone else's blog (never very sure of forum etiquette).

I echo the request - more pics please.

Martin

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Hi Martin - if you know how to post a pic, go ahead! I'm never sure how to do it other than in the main topic. I would love to see the 850ST.

 

How are you getting on with that B-set glazing you mentioned?

 

ps - thanks for the kind words!

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Hi Al. May have spoken with too much confidence on abilities to post pic but will have a go.

 

Despite a bright start B-set glazing is now proceeding extremely slowly. Having resprayed the coaches into crimson (several thin layers) and had a bizarre accident which somewhat advanced my weathering intentions (managed to spray on matt black rather than matt varnish - don't ask) I'm now paying the price in reduced window aperture sizes which means that glazing every window has become a protracted affair with much filing/sanding and test fitting. I'm even unhappy with some of the ones I have fitted and may replace. So an encouraging start's now become a bit of a haul. Problem is there's two of them to do...

Did you have any luck? You suggested you were considering fitting some.

 

 

Anyway. To the pics. I don't know if this will work.

 

Martin

 

850ST 2 (800x521)

850ST 1 (800x600)

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  • RMweb Gold

Very nice, Martin - clearly the work of the same builder, with the Spratt and Winkle bar fixed as it is (unfortunately at the wrong height for my own S&Ws - I bought a private owner wagon as well). That's a nice looking bit of layout, by the way.

 

Re: the B-sets, I have several I could do, but I'm dithering over whether to fix that "extra" window that shouldn't be there, or just live with it.

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Thanks Al. Fortunately, i also bought some wagons - with the benefit of the S&Ws matching heights. Good thing because I don't use them so at least I can put together a goods train. Thanks for the kind words on the layout. There's really not much to it. It's a micro inglenook with a kickback to a coal siding. I'd had plans for a modular arrangement with the module sizes constrained by the size of the bookshelves in my study but it's never really progressed beyond this element. and I've still got a bit to do here. On the upside it's right next to my desk which means I can get pleasantly distracted very easily.

 

I did fill in the B-set windows and was very pleased with the result but of course that then necessitated the respray with the consequent problems I mentioned. I might try glazing one in factory finish to see it it is easier.

 

Martin

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