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bcnPete

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Good evening,

 

Unfortunately work has been busy and mojo zapped since the flurry of activity on my week off which got the project up and running.

 

That said, sketches still prevail in my sketchbook during journeys to work or en route to meetings.

 

A number of comments were received which questioned the small letterbox to the train shed...my youngest son was the first to express doubts...and he seems to be developing a critical eye for this sort of stuff. The idea being to complete the 50mm border to the fascia as per Kyle and then reveal the station building with a glass wall prioviding the view into the shed supplemented by the roof light which is on this side too. The other side of the roof can be made removable in case of any problems/track cleaning.

 

A couple of sketches were undertaken to test the idea and then this was modified on the mock up - one of the benefits of not being too precious with a mock up is allowing mods to happen...a lot easier than hacking the final product. Sketch here:

 

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Another thought was how to produce the back scene as Richard (Ben Alder) advised me that the view has changed somewhat over the years so not as straightforward as the mountains of Skye for Kyle - perhaps the use of a conventional backscene with a row of vans photographed and used in the foreground as Richard had done...this got me thinking on how that might work...stretching my photoshop skills somewhat :O sketch here:

 

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Another modification was cutting back the platform a tad as it felt too long and would give rise to a little more greenery/foliage to this end...another counterpoint to Kyle if they get joined together.

 

Next up, use of the mock up to gauge where uncoupling magnets will be positioned. Using the 'if it ain't broke, don't try and fix it' analogy I will probably use the same system of slide in/out permanent bar magnets to keep things simple. These have been indicated by red self adhesive dots so I can co-ordinate with wiring etc. beneath.

 

The end of the Fiddleyard board will eventually require modification to allow through running so a quick thought on how this might happen and the need to get power to the strip lights concealed in the fascias. Sketch here:

 

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As always, comments welcome...

 

Pete

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  • RMweb Gold

Pete nice to see you include some green

 

nice research should make a good project

 

Bon Chance

Thanks Nick - Finally snuck a bit of green in there...just for you...no locos mind :jester:

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  • RMweb Gold

Stunning display Pete. I particularly like the cut out view into the station shed.

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Looks great Pete.
Thanks Jeremy

 

Stunning display Pete. I particularly like the cut out view into the station shed.
Thanks also Argos - I think the view at the end and the side slot give enough flavour of the shed inside - looking at pics, the era I am modelling the coaches stopped outside so only the locos will be popping into it...
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I'm all for concealing strip lights in fascists!! It should make their eyes water a bit :-)

 

:lol: Good spot Ian (flipping predictive text) now duly amended - Thanks :D

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Hi Pete, that's a good idea to use the backscene trick with the vans in the foreground. I'm sure you can make that look great.

 

If you'll allow: Personally I liked the letter box trick better for the train shed. I think it framed, focused and balanced things better, and opened up an innovative new approach to layout display.

 

But then again I'm not going to argue with your son, kids usually end up being right :-)

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Good to see an update to keep the 'mojo' going Pete ;)

 

I do love those drawings. Always a pleasure to see your 'thoughts and ideas' down on paper.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

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Hi Pete, nice design - love the cutaway train shed. Had you considered reducing the platform width to allow the half relief building to emerge?

 

Alex.

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Beautiful workmanship.  Great to see those lovely drawings.  Move over Paul A Lunn!  Most modellers pay no heed to rationalising the design of our layouts - it's just straight from mind to hand - this is why I find your blogs so fascinating.  So crisp and neat as per usual - brilliant!

 

Mike

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Hi Pete, that's a good idea to use the backscene trick with the vans in the foreground. I'm sure you can make that look great. If you'll allow: Personally I liked the letter box trick better for the train shed. I think it framed, focused and balanced things better, and opened up an innovative new approach to layout display. But then again I'm not going to argue with your son, kids usually end up being right :-)

 

Thanks Mikkel - that's interesting and seeing how it is coming from you, the master of micro layouts, it has now got my mind racing whether it is the right move - For sure, the coat of grey paint allows one to step back and read the composition more clearly...more pondering required... :)

 

 

Good to see an update to keep the 'mojo' going Pete ;) I do love those drawings. Always a pleasure to see your 'thoughts and ideas' down on paper.

 

Thanks also Mark - as I always say, if I can't spend time modelling, the next best thing for me is drawing it...it then feels that things are moving forward...

 

 

Hi Pete, nice design - love the cutaway train shed. Had you considered reducing the platform width to allow the half relief building to emerge?/quote]

 

Thanks Alex - I wanted to have the view across the platform this time but it's true it's quite a wide platform, the front fascia almost being the face of the bay platform - maybe I can pull it in as long as I keep enough of the train shed frontage then this might expand the width of the goods Shed...

 

Beautiful workmanship. Great to see those lovely drawings. Move over Paul A Lunn! Most modellers pay no heed to rationalising the design of our layouts - it's just straight from mind to hand - this is why I find your blogs so fascinating. So crisp and neat as per usual - brilliant!

 

Many thanks for your kind comments Mike...

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Hi again Pete, sorry if I disturbed progress, that certainly wasn't the intention. I was just very taken with the letter box idea (which you've also discussed earlier I remember).

 

I can see various advantages of such an approach. One is that it could make a compact layout seem larger because the "middle bits" would be concealed by the fascia. Another is that it would focus the viewing and bring out the individual scenes better (as is sometimes done in museums with eg archaeologicial objects). Taken to its extreme, one could even have a layout divided into a series of 3-5 letter box views.

 

But there are probably also disadvantages. Eg there could be issues related to viewing from an angle, as well as giving the operator a clear line of sight! And the sense of depth and space could possibly be aversely affected. Maybe worth an experiment another time.

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Always enjoy reading your posts. It seems a shame to box in the station end of the layout, when the station will be such a feature. How about supporting the corner of the facia with a clear perspex rod to open out the whole end. You could then have a letter box on the end and side to create a box within a box! If feeling ultra ambitious you could turn rows of roof tiles into luvres so you can open and close the roof!

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Hi again Pete, sorry if I disturbed progress, that certainly wasn't the intention. I was just very taken with the letter box idea (which you've also discussed earlier I remember).

 

I can see various advantages of such an approach. One is that it could make a compact layout seem larger because the "middle bits" would be concealed by the fascia. Another is that it would focus the viewing and bring out the individual scenes better (as is sometimes done in museums with eg archaeologicial objects). Taken to its extreme, one could even have a layout divided into a series of 3-5 letter box views.

 

But there are probably also disadvantages. Eg there could be issues related to viewing from an angle, as well as giving the operator a clear line of sight! And the sense of depth and space could possibly be aversely affected. Maybe worth an experiment another time.

 

Mikkel - no problem - I will certainly rethink this in line with Alex's comment...

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Always enjoy reading your posts. It seems a shame to box in the station end of the layout, when the station will be such a feature. How about supporting the corner of the facia with a clear perspex rod to open out the whole end. You could then have a letter box on the end and side to create a box within a box! If feeling ultra ambitious you could turn rows of roof tiles into luvres so you can open and close the roof!

 

Hi Compton - many thanks for the kind comments - that's a nice idea using the perspex rod - I was actually trying to have something a bit different to Kyle to counter it so the two layouts were different but work together as a whole.

 

Like the idea of the roof louvred too... :D

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