Sutton Dock

Interesting project.

I was fortunate enough to go to Brentford Docks on a railtour in the early 60s sorry any photos lost over the years.

 

I note you choice of period is 1910-1913 the  Lake coaches would have started to come in by then although you probably wouldn't have seen any at a dock. If you set it a little earlier around 1907 you would still have some locos with the brown frames while newer ones would have the black frames. Also from the turn of the century the old round topped boilers were being replaced by the belpaire fireboxes. So you can have a fair mix.

Best wishes Don

The first two may be Brentford,but the third looks like Gloucester docks,  I'm intrigued as to the location of the last picture.  The barges look very much like Humber Keels, which would be well off the GWR patch.

 

 

Adrian

Interesting project.

I was fortunate enough to go to Brentford Docks on a railtour in the early 60s sorry any photos lost over the years.

 

I note you choice of period is 1910-1913 the  Lake coaches would have started to come in by then although you probably wouldn't have seen any at a dock. If you set it a little earlier around 1907 you would still have some locos with the brown frames while newer ones would have the black frames. Also from the turn of the century the old round topped boilers were being replaced by the belpaire fireboxes. So you can have a fair mix.

Best wishes Don

 

Hi Don, there are various reports of a short lived station at the docks although I haven't found any pictures. Brentford station was of course a fair distance away. The date is really flexible I suspect much will depend on the stock I have!

 

Mark

The first two may be Brentford,but the third looks like Gloucester docks,  I'm intrigued as to the location of the last picture.  The barges look very much like Humber Keels, which would be well off the GWR patch.

 

 

Adrian

 

Hi Adrian, yes the first two are Brentford and as you say the third is Gloucester. I liked the horses on the dockside. Sets the period nicely. I checked my notes for the fourth andthey say Brentford but its definitely not. So I shall see if I can trace it. Wherever it is I like the loaded carts on the dockside.

 

Thanks, Mark

Hi Adrian, yes the first two are Brentford and as you say the third is Gloucester. I liked the horses on the dockside. Sets the period nicely. I checked my notes for the fourth andthey say Brentford but its definitely not. So I shall see if I can trace it. Wherever it is I like the loaded carts on the dockside. Thanks, Mark

 

I just looked back and the picture comes from 

 

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/b/brentford_dock/index5.shtml

 

and it is supposedly Brentford Dock, I remain unconvinced however.

 

Mark

I just looked back and the picture comes from 

 

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/b/brentford_dock/index5.shtml

 

and it is supposedly Brentford Dock, I remain unconvinced however.

 

Mark

The items being transferred don't look much like Aluminium Ingots to me. More like bales of some fibrous material?

The trailer looks to have a short wheelbase and support wheels typical of articulated trailers used in conjunction with the Railway's Three-wheel tugs. Does the width/fatness of the pneumatic tyres help with the dating ? Clicking on the picture gives a date of 1950. 

I think that this is obviously not the correct picture for the caption! More than that I am at a loss. Does the men's clothing help? It looks like 50s?

I think that this is obviously not the correct picture for the caption! More than that I am at a loss. Does the men's clothing help? It looks like 50s?

 

I've been having another think about this.  From the design of the barges, I'm fairly sure that it is Yorkshire, but there weren't that many large covered docks.  The one in Sheffield still exists, but it isn't that one (there was no quayside under cover).  I think that there was one in Leeds (Dock Street, which had been the Aire & Calder company's headquarters), but it looks as though it has now been redeveloped, and I can't find any old photos of it.

 

With the bales of material, that would tie in with Leeds's textile industry.  There is some writing on the side of the trailer, but I think you'd need the original to read it.

 

 

Adrian