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GWR 517 0-4-2T


JDaniels

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I'm thinking of constructing another 517 0-4-2T to work alongside the M &L kit I already have. I was contemplating the Malcolm Mitchell kit but really wanted something that would not take as long to construct and I'm also a little put off by comments that on some of these kits the boiler has to be rolled. I've since read reports that SE Finecast are supposed to have produced a kit for this locomotive but although it appears in the price list, I've yet to find a photo of it.

 

The M & L kit represents the short framed, inside rear bearing version of the 517 which, by the 1920's were quite rare, most having been converted with a longer frame and outside rear bearings. Does anyone know which version the SE Finecast kit represents?

 

I have a SE Finecast kit of the GWR Metro tank and the quality and fit of the castings is outstanding. The kits also come with a detailed etched chassis.

 

I'd be grateful if anyone has more information on this kit which I can imagine will be very popular.

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I saw the kit available at Scaleforum. I'm reasonably certain it is the long-wheelbase with outside rear bearings, and standard (narrow) tank, but SEF information on the new kit seems to be non-existent! (I suggest an e-mail to Dave Ellis to clarify.)

 

There is an RMweb thread somewhere, although that doesn't shed much more light on what the SEF kit actually is.

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I saw the kit available at Scaleforum. I'm reasonably certain it is the long-wheelbase with outside rear bearings, and standard (narrow) tank, but SEF information on the new kit seems to be non-existent! (I suggest an e-mail to Dave Ellis to clarify.)

 

There is an RMweb thread somewhere, although that doesn't shed much more light on what the SEF kit actually is.

 

The RMweb thread and advert (with photo) is here:

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/117704-south-eastern-finecast-gwr-517-0-4-2t/?p=2803978

 

I'm sure several of us would be interested to see better photos if you decide to buy the kit.

Thank for that guys.

 

It looks as though both wheelbases can be made from the kit but it doesn't mention whether the earlier bunker is included. The photo shows the later Collett bunker. This would rather restrict the period covered.

 

I recollect that the Metro kit had both bunkers, at the time I opted for the Collett version with full cab as I was then more interested in the early 1930's period. I still have the earlier bunker which, with careful selection of prototype, should be suitable for the 517 but this kit may have the alternatives.

 

I will not make any comment on marketing strategy!

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I may be wrong but I thought that the 517 kit looked like the old McGowan (?) kit for "Fair Rosamund", or I may be thinking of something else.  All of this talk of 4mm scale 517's reminds me that I really ought to get in the loft and see what 4mm stuff I should get shut of (now I'm a 2mm modeller).  I know that my P4 M&L 517 is up there somewhere looking like this gallery_12089_1634_133742.jpg

 

Ian

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I may be wrong but I thought that the 517 kit looked like the old McGowan (?) kit for "Fair Rosamund", or I may be thinking of something else.  All of this talk of 4mm scale 517's reminds me that I really ought to get in the loft and see what 4mm stuff I should get shut of (now I'm a 2mm modeller).  I know that my P4 M&L 517 is up there somewhere looking like this gallery_12089_1634_133742.jpg

 

Ian

ian,

 

Thank you for your comments and the photo. I see your version has the outside bearings. The M & L kit I have only made the inside bearing version. The Finecast advert was a little confusing as it refers to being able to make both inside and outside bearing versions but my understanding is that the outside bearing locos had a 6in longer overall wheelbase. I don't suppose there is any provision to make this alteration in the kit so I guess you accept the discrepancy or perhaps move the trailing wheels back by this amount.(the coupled wheelbase did not change at 7ft 4in).

 

Perhaps rather hastily I've ordered one from Finecast so will report when it arrives. I gather it was sent today so should be with me very soon.

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Just completed the SE Finecast kit of the long wheelbase 517. I hope you find the pictures of interest. 

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On 16/01/2021 at 20:25, PUASHP said:

Just completed the SE Finecast kit of the long wheelbase 517. I hope you find the pictures of interest. 

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Could i ask what your method for modifying the rear step was? i have a partly assembled kit that needs the same modification!

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