BR to NCB

Hi Oliver,

 

I like what you're doing here with your conversion of main line locos to industrial use. There is historical fact behind your own fictitious scenario.

 

BR did loan locomotives under the terms of a contractual agreement to Staveley Ironworks, which did include more than one example of the 1F type.

 

At least one 'Jinty' 3F got sold to the NCB and was (partially) repainted in a yellow livery!

 

Of course quite a few ex-GWR pannier tanks (57XX and 8750 types) were sold to the NCB and also several 57XX examples to London Transport.

 

There are many other examples of main line locos being sold to the NCB and other railway operating concerns and it wasn't a new phenomenon either. There have been times in the past when the manufacturers of 'proper' industrial locos found orders tailing off, because one of the main line companies had built new locos and had a glut of older types, which would have been sold to industry for less than the price of a new 'proper' industrial loco from the likes of Peckett & Sons or Andrew Barclay.

 

Main line locos also got sold off to more rural, light railway concerns. Good examples of this would be the terrier tanks sold to the Kent & East Sussex Railway by the Southern Railway.

Thank you very much!

I believe that's why they lasted as long as they did, because of a deal the Midland Railway did?

It is a very interesting prototype to follow-hence this tread!

Light Railways can be included too!

All very interesting and want to see how people model it too!

Thank you for commenting

Oliver

Hi I love your industrial sort of theme. I sort of do some similar things, but I mainly model GWR and SR region heritage. But here I have attached some photos. 3 are of a scratch built industrial shunter I built and squeezed a Hornby chassis into. It's painted in BR green now, but could be in any livery really. Also I've converted a Hornby Austerity into a new livery, fictitious WD black, with original works number and custom etched nameplate from narrow planet, you should try them if you haven't already. Named after ww1 battleship, Renown. My YouTube channel is also called GWR 5764.

They both look great!

Thanks for the suggestion and I will check them out- as I will our channel!

What is the industrial shunter made from?

Thanks for posting

Oliver

A little update on the 1F with its little info file.

I've just added red rods that is all, but it does give it more of an industrial appearance. 

 

Model: Bachmann Midland 1F

Modifications: Driver, fireman (not fitted in the picture), RailTech transfers (NCB and 722), DCC chip & red rods

Brought from: BR Midland Region- 1965

Survived until: 1979

Worked on the Colliery doing: shunting, banking, exchange sidings & internal user traffic

Things to do: Kadee couplings, fireman & weathering 

*timeline may not match with real life*

Edited April 28, 2019 by OliverRowley

Model: Oxford Rail Janus

Modifications: DCC fitted, RailTech NCB and number transfers

Brought from: Scunthorpe Steelworks- 1979

Survived until: 1988 (when the mine closed down)

Worked on the Colliery doing: shunting, banking, exchange sidings & internal user traffic

Things to do: Driver & a weathering

*timeline may not match with real life*

Thoughts on these locos and files of information?

Edited April 28, 2019 by OliverRowley

Model: Hornby Peckett W4

Modifications: DCC fitted, RailTech NCB and number transfers, Kadee's, driver & fireman 

Brought from: Huntley and Palmer's Biscuits- 1935

Survived until: 1969

Worked on the Colliery doing: shunting, banking, exchange sidings, internal user traffic and its mainstay; working the Wagon Works yard

Things to do: Weathering

*timeline may not match with real life*

Model: Hornby Peckett W4

Modifications: DCC fitted, RailTech NCB and number transfers & Kadee's 

Brought from: Lilleshall Stone Co.- 1925

Survived until: 1971

Worked on the Colliery doing: shunting, banking, exchange sidings, internal user traffic and its mainstay; working the Wagon Works yard

Things to do: Weathering and Driver & Fireman

*timeline may not match with real life*

11 hours ago, OliverRowley said:

A little update on the 1F with its little info file.

I've just added red rods that is all, but it does give it more of an industrial appearance. 

 

Model: Bachmann Midland 1F

Modifications: Driver, fireman (not fitted in the picture), RailTech transfers (NCB and 722), DCC chip & red rods

Brought from: BR Midland Region- 1965

Survived until: 1979

Worked on the Colliery doing: shunting, banking, exchange sidings & internal user traffic

Things to do: Kadee couplings, fireman & weathering 

*timeline may not match with real life*

Interested to see weathering on this. With that hunslet austerity I showed you, I've added some stripes, as of Cardiff East Moors Steelworks. 

16 hours ago, OliverRowley said:

They both look great!

Thanks for the suggestion and I will check them out- as I will our channel!

What is the industrial shunter made from?

Thanks for posting

Oliver

The shunter is made from plasticard. 

Just come across this.... what a wonderful creative blog. I love industrial locos and it is great to see them highlighted here. There were many historical examples of mainline locos being sold to the NCB and other industrial concerns. The Bowes Railway had an ex-GWR painnier tank (57xx maybe) which was way out of its comfort zone!  So there is plenty of evidence to support this approach from the prototype.

 

It's great that industrial locos are now getting lots of prominence, thanks to Hornby and others. I am a particular fan of Pecketts but my favourite remains the workshorse that is the austerity tank - powerful, elegant and hardy, they are smashing locos. All we need now is a rtr one in 7mm scale...... unlikely but I'll keep hoping in any case! 

 

Look forward to seeing more! 

9 hours ago, GWR5764 said:

Interested to see weathering on this. With that hunslet austerity I showed you, I've added some stripes, as of Cardiff East Moors Steelworks. 

The shunter is made from plasticard. 

 

You are clearly more creative with Plasticard than I am. I can build walls....

That Austerity looks great!

Like the striping.... I think some may be finding there way to my address....

7 hours ago, south_tyne said:

Just come across this.... what a wonderful creative blog. I love industrial locos and it is great to see them highlighted here. There were many historical examples of mainline locos being sold to the NCB and other industrial concerns. The Bowes Railway had an ex-GWR painnier tank (57xx maybe) which was way out of its comfort zone!  So there is plenty of evidence to support this approach from the prototype.

 

It's great that industrial locos are now getting lots of prominence, thanks to Hornby and others. I am a particular fan of Pecketts but my favourite remains the workshorse that is the austerity tank - powerful, elegant and hardy, they are smashing locos. All we need now is a rtr one in 7mm scale...... unlikely but I'll keep hoping in any case! 

 

Look forward to seeing more! 

 

Welcome!

There were and I myself wish to model (some) in the future!

Oh very much out of its comfort zone!

 

They are and I think its credit to those who take the plunge in producing them

Me too, I've got the 2 on the blog (so far) and they are great

Oh definitely, I admit that is very high on my wish list. I'm very fortunate that 2 are preserved at the Foxfeild Railway near me

I don't know much about that market- but it seems to be growing & considering the amount of liveries they were in and where they ended up (pretty much everywhere,  no?) I think it would make sense to produce one, maybe?

 

Me too!

5 hours ago, OliverRowley said:

 

Welcome!

There were and I myself wish to model (some) in the future!

Oh very much out of its comfort zone!

 

They are and I think its credit to those who take the plunge in producing them

Me too, I've got the 2 on the blog (so far) and they are great

Oh definitely, I admit that is very high on my wish list. I'm very fortunate that 2 are preserved at the Foxfeild Railway near me

I don't know much about that market- but it seems to be growing & considering the amount of liveries they were in and where they ended up (pretty much everywhere,  no?) I think it would make sense to produce one, maybe?

 

Me too!

 

Oliver,

 

You are very lucky to have the Foxfield Railway within easy reach of you. It is one of my ambitions to get there, something I have been wanting to do for years, I might realise it this summer with any luck. On the otherhand, I am fortunate to have the Tanfield Railway on my doorstep, another mecca for industrial steam lovers! It's a wonderful place - have you ever visited yourself?

 

In 0 gauge there are a few lovely industrial locos available, including the Ixion Hudswell Clarke and the Minerva Peckett. Both are fantastic little locos. A number of years ago, DJ Models did promise an austerity tank but sadly it has not come to pass and, to be honest, given the recent trials and tribulations for the company, I cannot see it materialising at all. Sad but fingers crossed someone else might pick up that mantle. 

 

Hope to see more in due course and keep up the good work 

 

David

 

Edited April 29, 2019 by south_tyne

13 hours ago, OliverRowley said:

 

You are clearly more creative with Plasticard than I am. I can build walls....

That Austerity looks great!

Like the striping.... I think some may be finding there way to my address....

Thanks a lot, be sure to have a go with Plasticard rolling stock, it's easier than it looks, just get a ratio chassis kit and build your own body on top, it's quite satisfying. With the austerity I've weathered her now. Used some powders and washed to create a light oily weathering and rain streaked affect. 

 

19 hours ago, south_tyne said:

 

Oliver,

 

You are very lucky to have the Foxfield Railway within easy reach of you. It is one of my ambitions to get there, something I have been wanting to do for years, I might realise it this summer with any luck. On the otherhand, I am fortunate to have the Tanfield Railway on my doorstep, another mecca for industrial steam lovers! It's a wonderful place - have you ever visited yourself?

 

In 0 gauge there are a few lovely industrial locos available, including the Ixion Hudswell Clarke and the Minerva Peckett. Both are fantastic little locos. A number of years ago, DJ Models did promise an austerity tank but sadly it has not come to pass and, to be honest, given the recent trials and tribulations for the company, I cannot see it materialising at all. Sad but fingers crossed someone else might pick up that mantle. 

 

Hope to see more in due course and keep up the good work 

 

David

 

 

I am!

If you can it is well worth it! 

If you do photography it is great too (and for inspiration for modelling too).  Unfortunately I haven't although I would like too. 

 

They both seem to be spoken highly of! Oh yeah, I don't really see it happening either. Was it a King they had planned for 00 that doesn't seem to be beyond CAD- but yeah someone will surely; they are very popular in N & 00!

 

 

11 hours ago, GWR5764 said:

Thanks a lot, be sure to have a go with Plasticard rolling stock, it's easier than it looks, just get a ratio chassis kit and build your own body on top, it's quite satisfying. With the austerity I've weathered her now. Used some powders and washed to create a light oily weathering and rain streaked affect. 

 

 

The weathering really helps finish her off!

 

I have some; so hope to knock something out of it soon, maybe a longer water tank for a upcoming (hopefully) project