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New chassis for the Hattons 14XX - Part 5


Captain Kernow

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The project to replace the chassis on my first Hattons/DJM 14XX is now almost complete.

 

Following the replacement of the number plates and the minor repair to the steam heating pipe arrangements mentioned in previous blogs, I have now painted and weathered the chassis and re-assembled it.

 

The chassis, minus the driving wheels, was first brush painted with Halfords red oxide primer (sprayed into the aerosol lid). I didn't want to remove the motor and all the associated hassle of excessive handling, as I'd already got the pick-ups in exactly the position I wanted them, so I generally prefer to brush-paint the chassis.

 

Once the primer had dried, I then painted weathering colours directly onto the chassis, from a mix of Humbrol enamel colours, such as No.62 Matt Leather, a Metalcote black, a dark/mid-grey, dark brown etc.

 

Then the wheels were sprayed with red primer, then matt black and finally given a light dusting of a track colour or sleeper grime type aerosol, to give them a base weathering colour.

 

The chassis components then looked like this:
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Other paint was then dry-brushed on to the wheels, which were then temporarily attached to an axle and given a spin in an electric drill, whilst a cotton bud, soaked (but not soaking) in cellulose thinners, was held against the wheel treads and flanges to clean them off:
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I also primed and painted the coupling rods.

 

Once the enamel paints had thoroughly dried (for various reasons this ended up being three or four days), I carefully cleaned the business end of the pick-ups with cellulose thinners on a cotton bud, where some enamel paint had accidentally gone, and re-assembled the chassis:
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Once satisfactory test running had taken place (which it now has done), I will lightly glue some etched overlays on top of the Romford axle nuts, to give a more prototypical portrayal of an axle end.

 

The chassis was re-lubricated, where necessary, and test run, which was fine. It was then re-united with the loco body and is seen here posing on 'Bethesda Sidings', alongside the much more recently bought second 14XX, which will be re-numbered to 1420 in due course:
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Here is 1458 next to 4406, which is one of my oldest locos and one of the very few to retain GW livery from a much earlier project:
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I am finally happy with the running of 1458, The high gearing and quality of the High Level gearbox give it good controllability for all the shunting that will be indulged in on 'Bethesda Sidings'. Here are a couple of clips of it running this afternoon:

 

 

 


One final word on the subject of the second (weathered) Hattons/DJM 14XX. From the outset, it seemed a better runner than the first two that I had from Hattons (the second of which became 1458), but still wasn't sufficiently good to keep the Comet chassis kit in my 'unmakde kits' box.

 

Following a prolonged amount of running in on a rolling road and latterly on a circle of set-track, it was with some trepidation that I tested it on 'Bethesda Sidings' yesterday afternoon, using my AMR slow speed controller.

 

Whilst not quite as responsive as 1458, it nonetheless surprised me and was, in fact, sufficiently controllable to warrant the chassis being kept and not requiring replacement. Good news and one less job to do!

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Glad to see all that work has paid off now Tim.

 

Unfortunately the vids aren't available here.

 

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Unfortunately the vids aren't available here.

 

Try it now, Grahame, I've changed the settings at my end, sorry about that.

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Try it now, Grahame, I've changed the settings at my end, sorry about that.

 

Thank you for redoing the videos, most definitely top notch slow running

 

You should be very happy with your achievement, well done mate !

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Good to see this running Tim, very smooth I must say. It's been interesting and useful to follow the project. 

 

Lucky that the latest one doesn't require a new chassis - though it shouldn't really be about luck, should it! Much time saved there I can imagine.

 

PS: I see from your Youtube channel that you have tap water. Fascinating invention, isn't it?  :laugh:

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As an aside, surprisingly I knew nothing about Limpley Stoke being reused ( albeit in a private capacity ) until watching your YouTube video, thanks for posting it there, very informative.

 

Kitchen tap hmmm !

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Very impressive, I am currently working on an Airfix 14XX turning up new Chimney, safety valve, and smokebox door, plus a few handrails, and toolboxes in correct position.

I am using a Comet chassis, and Romford driving wheels, but can't find any acceptable pony wheels.Which wheels did you use ??

 

Rob

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Very impressive, I am currently working on an Airfix 14XX turning up new Chimney, safety valve, and smokebox door, plus a few handrails, and toolboxes in correct position.

I am using a Comet chassis, and Romford driving wheels, but can't find any acceptable pony wheels.Which wheels did you use ??

 

Rob

Hi Rob,

 

I believe the pony wheels were also from Markits. They were supplied with the chassis, when I ordered it from Perseverance about two years ago.

 

If I was doing this again, though, I'd order some Ultrascale ones - now seemingly available again, although with the usual wait - https://www.ultrascale.uk/eshop/products/view/CAT021/112

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Thanks for the info, I have looked at Ultrascale, but there seems to be an incredibly long waiting time for their wheels. Up to 10 months!

I will look for Alan Gibson wheels, or maybe I will use the original Airfix ones and turn the flanges down to nearer scale. In the meantime I can order some Ultrascale...

 

Rob

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The first 14XX, with the Perseverance chassis, is finally completed, having been weathered over the last couple of weeks. Photos to follow.

 

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43 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said:

The first 14XX, with the Perseverance chassis, is finally completed, having been weathered over the last couple of weeks. Photos to follow.

 

 

Looking forward to seeing it CK.

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Unable to find a 'Splendid' button therefore.......

 

Splendid. 

 

Rob. 

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I’m not sure if 1458 ever got the late crest. I saw it at Wrexham Central in 1961 in fully lined green livery with the early crest. 

 

I have seen a number of subsequent photographs of it including, on the Chalford auto trains and it seems to have retained the early crest until withdrawal.

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I was literally waiting for someone to spot that! I only realised this myself a few weeks ago.

 

Not to worry, in my timeline, the loco got a repaint and a later crest when it went to works for reboilering. Photos in the late 1950s show it with a top feed, yet the footage taken by Jim Clemens and subsequent still photos show it without.

 

I have a top feed example as well, which will be the other Kington goods loco - 1420, but I'm not messing with 1458 now, especially as I've just finished the weathering!

 

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