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A Brake from tradition...


bcnPete

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Evening all and hope you had a good Easter,

 

My 2mmFS mojo seems to have dried up at the moment so the good thing about having a 7mm layout means I can switch focus :D I also have this week off work so I hope to do some more on this layout.

 

This entry concerns one of the pieces of rolling stock acquired some years ago as part of the fleet - A Slaters 7mm BR Brake Van. I haven’t made any kits for some years and it seemed a good project to begin this weekend, ahead of the week. 

 

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Following a read of the instructions...and several re-reads...I began work on the underframe. I have to say I found the instructions a bit lacking in detail in places and it seems where parts of the kit have been updated...the instructions haven’t :unsure: :no:

 

Following a few forum threads and prototype photos I have got to a position where it is just requiring the handrails and painting/transfers etc. to finish...this from spending a few hours a day on it. Mainly assembled with Mek Pak and superglue it has had some liquid weight applied underneath and I may put some more before I fix the roof on permanently.

 

I hope to give it a test run in the next couple of days whilst progressing the layout - more on this later in the week.

 

Here’s a few pics of where it stands at the moment...

 

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As always, comments welcome,

 

Pete

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That looks really good, Pete.

 

Here's a question though: did BR brake vans ever actually have those arched rain strips? In all of the photos I've seen, where one can clearly make them out, they are straight and either slope down towards the middle or the ends. I would certainly claim that straight ones were the most common form. Maybe the Airfix kit is to blame for so many models having curved rain strips?

 

David

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1 hour ago, Kylestrome said:

That looks really good, Pete.

 

Here's a question though: did BR brake vans ever actually have those arched rain strips? In all of the photos I've seen, where one can clearly make them out, they are straight and either slope down towards the middle or the ends. I would certainly claim that straight ones were the most common form. Maybe the Airfix kit is to blame for so many models having curved rain strips?

 

David

 

Thanks David - oooh that is a good question! Looking at most of the pictures I have I can see what you mean...most look like they slope towards the middle...most of the rtr model photos also show them arched too.

 

I shall have to take the scalpel and microstrip to it now as it’s irking me! Thanks for highlighting it... :good:  

 

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Here's one. Perhaps the proportions aren't quite the same, but they're definitely both curved. Look at enough old photos and you could probably turn up loads of variations.

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9 hours ago, BernardTPM said:

Here's one. Perhaps the proportions aren't quite the same, but they're definitely both curved. Look at enough old photos and you could probably turn up loads of variations.

 

Thanks Bernard - I will re check my Wenford BV photos...most shots are difficult to see them from track view...

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Yes, finding sufficiently overhead shots to show the roof isn't easy and I'd agree that in later years they would have been likely to have been replaced with straight strips, but as to which way and how much they sloped that varied enormously. I suspect the model isn't technically wrong, but represents some of them as they were originally built (or what was on the works drawings).

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3 hours ago, BernardTPM said:

Yes, finding sufficiently overhead shots to show the roof isn't easy and I'd agree that in later years they would have been likely to have been replaced with straight strips, but as to which way and how much they sloped that varied enormously. I suspect the model isn't technically wrong, but represents some of them as they were originally built (or what was on the works drawings).

 

Perhaps that is why no-one produces a drawing for it in the kits!

 

Typically here, it’s tricky to make out the angles...

 

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Lucky! One clear view. Straight, quite chunky and with hardly any slope (maybe just a hint of downwards to the middle). Also very little wider than the openings themselves. The loco would also be an interesting weathering project.

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Cracking work Pete.

 

Looks like a fab kit to build with clean assembly.. ;)

 

Think the diagonal rain strips will improve the appearance depending on the prototype.

 

Are you going to finish it like Paul Bartlett's in the photo? 

 

I wonder if Realtec could sort some custom decals for you? 

 

Cheers,

 

Mark 

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6 hours ago, BernardTPM said:

Lucky! One clear view. Straight, quite chunky and with hardly any slope (maybe just a hint of downwards to the middle). Also very little wider than the openings themselves. The loco would also be an interesting weathering project.

 

Nice one Bernard! Thanks, that has given me something to work with...

 

42 minutes ago, 46444 said:

Cracking work Pete.

 

Looks like a fab kit to build with clean assembly.. ;)

 

Think the diagonal rain strips will improve the appearance depending on the prototype.

 

Are you going to finish it like Paul Bartlett's in the photo? 

 

I wonder if Realtec could sort some custom decals for you? 

 

Cheers,

 

Mark 

 

Thanks also Mark.

 

No I think I have moved away from that original PB pic as I wanted to model the running bars (?) full length...I will Model one that visited the branch...maybe the one Bernard referenced above... ;)

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This looks great Pete.

BR brake vans remind me of my first day in the scouts as a boy. Living in Penwithick at the time, my local scouts was in Stenalees, and on my first day we went on a group walk up the Goonbarrow branch from Goonbarrow refinery to Imperial dries. This was of course the former home of the CSLPS, who some years prior had moved out and set up at Bodmin General, but had left behind a few wagons including, as you may have guessed, a BR brake van. We spent about an hour or so running around the works and playing on the wagons. Pretty bloody good I reckoned. All the scout leaders were women, but they knew how to keep young Cornish boys entertained that's for sure!

Sadly the wagons were all destroyed by arsonists before the society were able to move them up to Bodmin, so I never got to have a "reunion" when I volunteered on the B&W.

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3 hours ago, Stoker said:

This looks great Pete.

BR brake vans remind me of my first day in the scouts as a boy. Living in Penwithick at the time, my local scouts was in Stenalees, and on my first day we went on a group walk up the Goonbarrow branch from Goonbarrow refinery to Imperial dries. This was of course the former home of the CSLPS, who some years prior had moved out and set up at Bodmin General, but had left behind a few wagons including, as you may have guessed, a BR brake van. We spent about an hour or so running around the works and playing on the wagons. Pretty bloody good I reckoned. All the scout leaders were women, but they knew how to keep young Cornish boys entertained that's for sure!

Sadly the wagons were all destroyed by arsonists before the society were able to move them up to Bodmin, so I never got to have a "reunion" when I volunteered on the B&W.

 

Many thanks Stoker - Good story that...perhaps this is where you got the railway bug...certainly the China clay influence!

 

Good to see you have started a blog too...

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21 minutes ago, bcnPete said:

 

Many thanks Stoker - Good story that...perhaps this is where you got the railway bug...certainly the China clay influence!

 

Good to see you have started a blog too...


It's good to be finally building something after all these years.

Actually you're partly to blame/thank for it. We moved house last November and that gave us cause to visit Ikea, where I noticed the "Lack" shelves. This of course prompted memories of "Coombe Junction", which caused me to visit RMweb for the first time in a long time. It also confused the wife as we started talking at crossed purposes about why certain shelving would be a "good candidate" - I only realised when I told her that I'm just not sure if I want to go N scale again... "...what does that have to do with my books?"... oh....

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Hi Pete, that looks good. I like the kit colours, very 1970s interior decoration! Do you ever find it confusing to work in 2mm and 7mm 'simultaneously'?

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Mikkel said:

Hi Pete, that looks good. I like the kit colours, very 1970s interior decoration! Do you ever find it confusing to work in 2mm and 7mm 'simultaneously'?

 

 

 

 

Thanks Mikkel,

 

Agreed on the 70’s...how was that ever thought as a good look? :D

 

Must admit, I enjoy the vast change between the scales...What I liked about the 7mm kit is I could assemble it with a bit of help from my close up specs...not once having to strap on the magnifying headset as I do with 2mm now. The scale has a really nice presence too...and watching the 08 potter about with a few wagons is nothing short of therapeutic! 

 

Downsizing doesn’t necessarily rule out a small 7mm layout... ;) 

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I'm pretty sure my grandmother used to have a 3 piece bathroom suite in the darker shade of brown...

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Completely forgot I had this photo, but it's one my Dad took on one of our trips up to Imperial dry, and it shows the brake van I was talking about earlier.

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15 hours ago, Mikkel said:

Hi Pete, that looks good. I like the kit colours, very 1970s interior decoration!

 

Thank goodness it's not 'Avocado' :D

 

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On 25/04/2019 at 07:34, Stoker said:

I'm pretty sure my grandmother used to have a 3 piece bathroom suite in the darker shade of brown...

Just came across this:

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Completely forgot I had this photo, but it's one my Dad took on one of our trips up to Imperial dry, and it shows the brake van I was talking about earlier.


Sorry, only just noticed these replies...Thanks for posting Stoker...

 

On 25/04/2019 at 12:22, Kylestrome said:

 

Thank goodness it's not 'Avocado' :D

 

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Ha! Let’s hope that never comes back as an idea.

 

One thing my (French) wife cannot fathom is why it was ever thought it was a good idea to put carpet in a bathroom :swoon:

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The one time I lived in a place that had carpet in the bathroom I actually loved it. I find carpet is much easier to maintain than hard floors (just vacuum it, with the occasional go over with a rug doctor), it gets rid of that horrible short-delay echo, and it's warmer to the foot.

I find that now that hard floors have become the norm, everyone has bloody cold houses and I have to keep a pair of slippers in the car!

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12 hours ago, Stoker said:

The one time I lived in a place that had carpet in the bathroom I actually loved it. I find carpet is much easier to maintain than hard floors (just vacuum it, with the occasional go over with a rug doctor), it gets rid of that horrible short-delay echo, and it's warmer to the foot.

I find that now that hard floors have become the norm, everyone has bloody cold houses and I have to keep a pair of slippers in the car!


Understood re the slippers - I think my wife’s main bugbear is the stench from the pee built up over the years from the species that have trouble with their aim :D Fair point I’d say...

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