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Wooden plank load

In my previous blog entry I mention that I was looking for information about wooden plank loads circa 1905.  Well I'm pleased to say that RMweb members came up trumps and provided me with loads of really useful information, thanks chaps!  I've been very taken by the wagon loads manufactured by Richard Ellis (tricky) of Monk's Gate Models https://www.monksgate.co.uk/shop?category=Wagon+Loads, so decided to treat myself to some planks for my wagon:)  The planks arrived in the following day's post and after a bit of staining with a very dilute wash of brown/black enamel paint were glued in position in the wagon.   Dyed thread was used to represent the rope that would have been used to tie the load down and stop it moving during transit.

 

Wooden plank load in wagon

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I'm delighted with the end result, thanks again to those that helped by providing prototype information.

 

Best wishes

 

Dave

 

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35 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

It would have to be a very severe bump to raise a ton or so of timber a foot or so into the air. Roping is in accordance with the instructions. What one might have to worry about is a rough shunt - the force of the lower end of the planks on the end stanchions of the wagon might be an issue. The instructions state that end door wagons can be loaded this way but the lower end of the planks must be at the fixed end of the wagon - the strain on the end door catches in a rough shunt would certainly be too great. 

It only needs the top plank to be dislodged to above the end of the wagon.

 

I accept the roping as modelled is correct, however I expected a rope to be tied across the wagon a foot or so from the end to prevent this sort of mishap.

 

I'm also almost certain the prototype planks weren't glued into the wagons :)

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5 minutes ago, Tricky said:

1000s, yes. Roll up, roll up! A scale 11” x 12” x 16’ is easily doable...!  

 

Could you do stacks of floorboards in 4 mm scale but with only the overhanging end detailed? Don't want to waste effort on the part that's hidden under the sheet...

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7 minutes ago, Stubby47 said:

It only needs the top plank to be dislodged to above the end of the wagon.

 

I accept the roping as modelled is correct, however I expected a rope to be tied across the wagon a foot or so from the end to prevent this sort of mishap.

 

I'm also almost certain the prototype planks weren't glued into the wagons :)

 

Looking again at the instructions (linked to earlier), they do specify that the lower end of the load should be a minimum of 8" below the top of the wagon and do also show a rope across the wagon at the point where the load comes up to the level of the sides. The reference photo in Atkins does show a rope in roughly that position.

 

One more rope please, Dave, so as not to run foul of yardmaster Stubby!

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17 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

One more rope please, Dave, so as not to run foul of yardmaster Stubby!

I shall re-raid Mrs Wenlock's sewing basket:)  I'll be blaming Stubby if I get caught!

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32 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Could you do stacks of floorboards in 4 mm scale but with only the overhanging end detailed? Don't want to waste effort on the part that's hidden under the sheet...

That's a clever idea and perhaps a use for Richard's off cuts:)  7 mm versions as well please! 

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1920s aerial views of Cardiff's "timber quarter" - aka East Tyndall Street, home of timber importers galore, Robinson, David; John Bland; Alexander's to name but a few

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The sidings at bottom left (in the first image) are Long Dyke Junc. and the GWR SWML is visible on the left.

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Also in view, GKIS 'New Dowlais' Works, rebranded on nationalisation to BSC East Moors.

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2 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Could you do stacks of floorboards in 4 mm scale but with only the overhanging end detailed? Don't want to waste effort on the part that's hidden under the sheet...

I believe it was Martin Brent (but stand to be corrected) who wrote several articles for MRJ some years ago, on the subject of wagon loads e.g. planks, cable drums, sacks etc.

Although he was modelling in 7mm, the ideas could be easily reduced to 4mm, and then concealing parts of the load, I did that with some billet loads, using square section Evergreen strip, built around a void, so the only full billets were those on top, and the sides. The ends were just short sections.

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1 minute ago, Regularity said:

Martyn Welch.

 

That's like the 7 mm scale modeller's Mornington Crescent?

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1 minute ago, Compound2632 said:

 

That's like the 7 mm scale modeller's Mornington Crescent?

If by such that means I have won, then I am happy with that!

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 A midnight raid of the sewing box secured some more thread, I hope Stubby approves of the additional rope!  Reprimands have been sent to all the goods porters involved and assurances have been provided that it won't happen again:)

 

 

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31 minutes ago, wenlock said:

 A midnight raid of the sewing box secured some more thread, I hope Stubby approves of the additional rope!  Reprimands have been sent to all the goods porters involved and assurances have been provided that it won't happen again:)

 

 

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Looks good to me. Have you seen this book?

https://www.abebooks.co.uk/9780860931553/Freight-Wagons-Loads-Service-GWR-0860931552/plp

It has quite a lot of photos of things like securing loads, both 'normal' and out-of-gauge. Curiously, the photos of things being done the wrong way always seem to feature wagons from other railways.....

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14 minutes ago, Fat Controller said:

Glad you like the wagon and thanks for the link to the book!  Its not one that I've got, so I think I might treat myself:)

 

21 minutes ago, Fat Controller said:

 Curiously, the photos of things being done the wrong way always seem to feature wagons from other railways.....

I would expect nothing less!:)

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1 hour ago, wenlock said:

Glad you like the wagon and thanks for the link to the book!  Its not one that I've got, so I think I might treat myself.

One of several that I am going to bring to the show in a week from now - you can then decide if the book is useful to you.

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1 hour ago, Western Star said:

One of several that I am going to bring to the show in a week from now - you can then decide if the book is useful to you.

Fabulous, I'd better bring plenty of cash with me, it sounds like it might be an expensive weekend!:)

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