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...the unused Pickfords container deserves a similarly convincing wagon to ride on:  I look forward to the one plank wagon which, no doubt, you're already studying in Atkins!

 

Nice load in 19451: it makes such a difference to be moving goods rather than just moving wagons (which is where I'm stilll at on Swan Hill).

 

Kit PW

Thanks Kit, yes a single planker is on the cards   I think I can probably kit bash something using the Cooper craft match truck top with scratch built solebars.

 

I quite like making loads for wagons, I’ve built a few crates and boxes from plasticard as masters.  I’ve then made silicone moulds so I can produce as many as I need.

Swan Hill is going to be magnificent, I’m really enjoying watching it develop.

 

BW

 

Dave

Hello Dave,

 

The Slater's kit for Glos. 7 plank wagons has a cast brass buffer stock which is very similar to your piece of work.

 

regards, Graham

1 hour ago, Western Star said:

Hello Dave,

 

The Slater's kit for Glos. 7 plank wagons has a cast brass buffer stock which is very similar to your piece of work.

 

regards, Graham

Thanks Graham, I shall file that information away and it will save me faffing about next time!  I hope they are available to purchase as a separate item!

What a gem, Dave!  I like your solution with the ribbed buffers, nothing will hold back a persistent modeller. 

 

I look forward to the one-planker. Will it be a GWR one? They are a bit of a minefield, as always 

 

Interesting. I'm hoping to get my hands on my local copy of Atkins before the lockdown bites. Your 19451 is from os Lot 76. The photos I've been using all show wagons with the "more bolts" corner-plates:

 

One from os Lot 75: 19159 [Wood, plate 28]; three from os Lot 97: 20159 [Wood, plate 23], 20176 [Jackson & Tattershall], and 20181 [Wood, plate 32]; one unknown: 6683 [Jackson & Tattershall]; and one from os Lot 112, 20435 [Wood, plate 29]. Old series lots 75 and 112 were built at Saltney; I don't know where Lot 97 was built but it was presumably contemporary with Saltney's Lot 98, completed April 1874, just as Lot 76 is presumably contemporary with Saltney's Lot 75, completed December 1872. So I can only suppose that whichever works built Lot 97 was building wagons to the same pattern as Saltney, whereas the works building Lot 76 followed its own pattern - but which works? Paddington, Worcester, or Swindon? This is just the period when wagon construction was being concentrated at the new works at Swindon, Saltney's last new wagons being built in late 1874.

 

I presume inspection of the wagon register would resolve that question but of course not explain the difference in design.

 

References:

Tony Wood, Saltney Carriage and Wagon Works (The Wider View / Great Western Study Group, 2007)

B.L. Jackson and M.J. Tattershall, The Bridport Branch (OPC, 1976) photo of West Bay station, June 1900.

Edited November 1, 2020 by Compound2632

12 hours ago, Mikkel said:

What a gem, Dave!  I like your solution with the ribbed buffers, nothing will hold back a persistent modeller. 

 

I look forward to the one-planker. Will it be a GWR one? They are a bit of a minefield, as always 

 

Thanks Mikkel  

 

I’d like to do a GWR wagon, I’ve been re-reading your inspirational posts about your 4mm version.  WEP do a 7mm kit, so I might treat myself to one of those  My only concern is that it will be a millimetre too narrow like the 2 plank version for the Pickfords container  Maybe some judicious surgery will overcome the issue!
 

I take it that there’s a picture of a suitable 1 planker in Atkins.  I really need to get myself a copy of that particular tome!
 

BW

 

Dave
 

 

3 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

Interesting. I'm hoping to get my hands on my local copy of Atkins before the lockdown bites. Your 19451 is from os Lot 76. The photos I've been using all show wagons with the "more bolts" corner-plates:

 

One from os Lot 75: 19159 [Wood, plate 28]; three from os Lot 97: 20159 [Wood, plate 23], 20176 [Jackson & Tattershall], and 20181 [Wood, plate 32]; one unknown: 6683 [Jackson & Tattershall]; and one from os Lot 112, 20435 [Wood, plate 29]. Old series lots 75 and 112 were built at Saltney; I don't know where Lot 97 was built but it was presumably contemporary with Saltney's Lot 98, completed April 1874, just as Lot 76 is presumably contemporary with Saltney's Lot 75, completed December 1872. So I can only suppose that whichever works built Lot 97 was building wagons to the same pattern as Saltney, whereas the works building Lot 76 followed its own pattern - but which works? Paddington, Worcester, or Swindon? This is just the period when wagon construction was being concentrated at the new works at Swindon, Saltney's last new wagons being built in late 1874.

 

I presume inspection of the wagon register would resolve that question but of course not explain the difference in design.

 

References:

Tony Wood, Saltney Carriage and Wagon Works (The Wider View / Great Western Study Group, 2007)

B.L. Jackson and M.J. Tattershall, The Bridport Branch (OPC, 1976) photo of West Bay station, June 1900.

As you say interesting information and thank you for sharing it!  These early wagons are a bit of a minefield, but I suppose it all adds to the fun!
 

Ive sent you a PM

 

BW

 

Dave

Just catching up, nicely done Dave and as stated before, and excellent home spun workaround for the buffer stocks.

 

G

1 hour ago, bgman said:

Just catching up, nicely done Dave and as stated before, and excellent home spun workaround for the buffer stocks.

 

G

Thanks Grahame, a bit of paint hides a multitude of sins

 

BW

 

Dave