Barton St David - Modelling the GW and SDJR

Nice to see that the new ranges of RTR 4- and 6- wheelers hasn't put a stop to projects like this. The Triang coaches and Ratio sides have been the subject of so much modelling creativity over the years, it would be a shame to see it end.

 

That clerestory coach in the background looks interesting too.

On 05/03/2021 at 06:31, Mikkel said:

Nice to see that the new ranges of RTR 4- and 6- wheelers hasn't put a stop to projects like this. The Triang coaches and Ratio sides have been the subject of so much modelling creativity over the years, it would be a shame to see it end.

 

That clerestory coach in the background looks interesting too.

Thanks! The clerestory coach in the background is another ongoing project - eventually it will join the 6-wheeler after painting and detailing. Also got to do something about those terrible triang bogies...

Looking good! I'm sure you're familiar with @Penrhos1920's website - endless variety; if what you've built isn't a good match for something there then you can argue it's a type that was extinct by the time the diagram book was compiled or failing that, the diagram is wrong!

 

For better quality (prototypical ride-height for starters) 6-wheel underframes you might like to look a the Chivers Finelines LMS fish van recently reintroduced by Five79, perhaps married with the Brassmasters Cleminson kit. I see that, realising the utility of the underframe, Five79 list it as coming soon as a separate item, so you don't need to populate your layout with grounded out-of-period fish van bodies. In fact, if you're going for cast axlebox-spring units then the Brassmasters unit with scratchbuilt solebars and headstocks may well be simpler than trying to make a silk purse out of the sow's ear of the Hornby underframe.

Edited March 6, 2021 by Compound2632

28 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

Looking good! I'm sure you're familiar with @Penrhos1920's website - endless variety; if what you've built isn't a good match for something there then you can argue it's a type that was extinct by the time the diagram book was compiled or failing that, the diagram is wrong!

 

For better quality (prototypical ride-height for starters) 6-wheel underframes you might like to look a the Chivers Finelines LMS fish van recently reintroduced by Five79, perhaps married with the Brassmasters Cleminson kit. I see that, realising the utility of the underframe, Five79 list it as coming soon as a separate item, so you don't need to populate your layout with grounded out-of-period fish van bodies. In fact, if you're going for cast axlebox-spring units then the Brassmasters unit with scratchbuilt solebars and headstocks may well be simpler than trying to make a silk purse out of the sow's ear of the Hornby underframe.

Thanks for the pointers, it certainly involves a little modellers license but I’m going to take those suggestions just in case anyone at exhibitions challenges the existence of such a model! 
 

The Tri-ang underframe is a good start but I agree the ride height is a little high, hopefully it won’t look too out of place with the other coaches I am planning to revamp. I think the Chivers option may appear some time in the future! 

I've used Mainly Trains underframes combined with the Brassmasters cleminson unit to produce  6 wheelers from Ratio bodies.  The Mainly Trains uframe was designed for the Ratio kits and includes Buffer beams, cast springs and axleboxes (only 4), solebars.  I've found the footboards to be too wide for my needs as they can foul the platform but that's easily solved with some tin snips in my case.

 

The Mainly Trains range, designed by Iain Rice is now with Wizard/51L.  No connection etc.