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Lima LMS Guv upgrade...or The Path Well Trod


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Below are some of the improvements I have attempted on the Lima LMS GUV/CCT. The coach was a chance find item in a chance find model shop on a day trip to Gravesend. 

 

The model was in "as new" condition before an inital brake fluid bath to remove the paint. The fluid did not manage to shift everything but as I intended to file and sand away alot of tge beading detail I felt removol of the lettering and numbers would be enough. 

 

Detail was scraped away with a brand new chisel blade. Preaching to the converted I know, but a sharp chisel blade must be used for good results but more importantly to avoid injury!

 

I removed alot of the beading to match a vehicle photograph by Paul Bartlett in 1968 https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsparcels/h157ec466

 

Additional beading was added to match the photo. 

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All the chisselling and sanded was made harder by detail I wanted to keep like hinges and doors bumpers. I decided to just go for it and replace later with door furniture made of comet brass hinges I had in the stores, brass .45 wire for door bumpers and .33 wire for hand grabs and handles. 

 

Lanarkshire buffers, hooks and torpedo vents were also added. At this stage the the chasis was untouched and I looked around for ideas on how this could be improved. 

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I came across a thread by @brossardabout the upgrade of this coach and decided to essentially copy his method. The most obvious fault with the lima model are the bogies, using BR1 type bogies, not the LMS 9ft bogies.

 

Bogies are in the process of being built and I have opted for the comet welded type as there is a picture of a vehicle fromt he same lot as mine with the welded type.   

 

I have never scratchbuilt anything in brass so decided to tool up with a piercing saw and .41mm brass sheet to build the truss work underneath. The reason for the amount of work is that the battery box side is a little crude and the trussing is more exposed on the real thing. LMS v hangers, dynamo, vac cylinders, lighting regulator and battery box were used from the comet range. 

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I mounted the vac cyinders so they hang too low but at this stage I felt the butchery required to correct them would be too much. The truss work is cut with a piercing saw and made use, like @brossard of the tatlow book on NPCS vehicles. 

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The side trusses were made with 1mm brass L angle and .41mm brass sheet cut witht he saw. 

 

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I hope so far that this account shows how modellers influence and inspire the work of others. I have done nothing original here but have enjoyed my first efforts using brass to scratch build with. 

 

I hope to get further along with the project this weekend! 

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Lovely detailing work. Those trusses in particular make a big difference, I think.

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Very nice job you've done there. What size strip have you used on the bodysides? Is it 10x20 thou?

 

I have one of these tucked away in the project box and I think I've come to the conclusion that a shortened Comet 50' underframe will be the way forward.

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1 hour ago, Waveydavey said:

Very nice job you've done there. What size strip have you used on the bodysides? Is it 10x20 thou?

 

I have one of these tucked away in the project box and I think I've come to the conclusion that a shortened Comet 50' underframe will be the way forward.

 

I actually used the vernier calipers to measure the existing body side strips (.75mm) then used .25mm (sorry for metric;-)) plastikard sheet, using the calipers to mark the cut line.

 

I have always been put off by the price of evergreen packs and although cruder, i prefer making my own. Any narrower then I am sure strip is the way foward. 

 

A brass chassis to solder the bits and bobs to would work nicely I'd say. 

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Yes Evergreen is pretty pricey but extremely useful IMO.  I have a large collection of the stuff, really invaluable.

 

You could of course make a brass chassis but it would be hard work.  It occurs to me that you could try a Comet chassis pack and modify it.  I have scratchbuilt chassis (eg Hornby Palethropes Sausage van) but in plastic card, which is much easier to work. 

 

John

 

 

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