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Pugsley

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I bloody love these water mixable oil paints that I've been using! wub.gif biggrin.gif

 

I thought gouache was the wonder stuff, well it still is really, but these oils are even better and much more versatile. It's taken a while to figure out how to use them effectively, it requires a slightly different technique to gouache, but I'm now glad that I've persevered with them after the initial disappointment that I had.

 

I've used them quite successfully, I think, on a couple of the TTA wagons that have graced the bench of late.

 

Exhibit A:

 

The inspiration:

http://paulbartlett....b08c1#h303b08c1

 

The model:

Before:

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After:

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Pretty much all of the barrel weathering, with the exception of the streaking from the filling hatch, has been done with the oils on this one. The streaking is gouache, which is still the best method of achieving this kind of effect. The underframe is a mix of the oils and powder/hairspray, with additional powder used dry on top for variation. The powder/hairspray mix was usd on all the black bits of the underframe, with highlights and other colours added as required.

 

The oils are great for adding subtle variation of colour, as they can be added sparingly and spread around, quite a long way, using a stiff-ish flat brush. They do dry pretty permanently, unlike gouache, after a period of time but the finish is still relatively fragile. They need to be sealed with varnish if the models that they're used on are going to handled regularly.

 

They can also be used in wash form, with either white spirit, or water with a drop of screenwash in the case of these particular paints. They can also be used in a form of dry brushing to add very subtle highlights.

 

Exhibit B:

 

The inspiration:

http://paulbartlett....17179#h2d017179

 

The model:

Before:

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After:

blogentry-6668-0-00923300-1304534327_thumb.jpg

 

Again, the barrel weathering is exclusively oils, including the spillage stains. So far, I've not found anything quite as good for doing subtle weathering as these, especially with the ability to add extremely subtle variations in colour.

 

The oils aren't as opaque as gouache, so they're no use for the heavier effects, for example I tried them on the truly filthy ex Esso tanker, as seen a few posts ago, and the oils wouldn't cover the original livery, even brushed on neat. I ended up using the gouache for that particular model, which reminds me that I must finish the other side of it! smile.gif

 

This is probably going to sound a bit pretentious, but I think these materials allow the boundary between modelling and art to be blurred a bit. To explain, part of producing a painting of a wagon would be adding the highlights, shadows and other subtle variations to bring the subject to life. In a way, weathering a model of wagon works the same way, except that the wagon itself is the canvas, if you see what I mean. I am definitely no artist, but am using these paints in almost the same way as one would, I guess.

 

Still, whichever way you look at it, I'm pleased with the results so far, and look forward to seeing what else I can do with this stuff. More soon! smile.gif

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Bryn

Not only have you increased the quality of 4mm weathering, you have opened up a whole new world to us smaller scale modellers. This technique will scale down very nicely. Every step you take forward, we follow in your wake. I've got a good feeling about this ;)

 

Well done that man!

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Looks wonderfully subtle & effective - it just seems to tone everything down so well. I don't suppose you could do a side-by-side comparison with an un-weathered example? (or is it too late for that!)

Can you tell us what make you're using - or do we just go into an art shop & ask for water mixable oil paints?

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Pugsley

Can you tell us what make you're using - or do we just go into an art shop & ask for water mixable oil paints?

Yeah, that would help, wouldn't it! :unsure: I'm using the Winsor and Newton Artisan range, which, as far as I know, are the only ones on the market. I got mine here:

http://www.artsupplies.co.uk/

for great prices and great service. The paints themselves aren't cheap, but they'll last virtually forever, a little goes a very long way indeed. I'll edit the post with some pics of the unsullied tanks shortly.

 

Bryn - You're too kind :blush_mini: :blush_mini: I'll be interested to see how you get on, I take it you'll be tapping Pixie up for discount supplies... ;)

 

Jon - The black ones are a different kettle of fish, with the dirt slightly less noticeable. I liked what you've done with yours (gave you a +1 for them :) )

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Jon020

Pugsley, thanks for the link... the paints sound interesting. I'll watch the video. Yes the black ones are a little trying... but a grey one or two will not go amiss. Thanks for the +1 too :) . Oh, and I've just acquired a 08 to couple to the TTAs... another weathering detailing (and P4ing?) project for the future :rolleyes:

 

Jon

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eldavo
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Nice subtle touch. :) I'll have to revist my TTA fleet as for some reason I find these really difficult to get a convincing effect on. More things to buy...

 

Cheers

Dave

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Pixie

I take it you'll be tapping Pixie up for discount

 

Not on goods from the 'enemy'. ;)

 

Excellent work Martin, I really will have to give these a go at somepoint. Like Bryn says, they've got real potential in 2mm for subtle effects. Have you had a chance to try out the 'Jo's Sister' varnish yet?

 

Pix

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Pugsley
I take it you'll be tapping Pixie up for discount
Not on goods from the 'enemy'. ;)

Of course! :D Having said that, I think conventional oils would work in exactly the same way, but there would be an increase in the drying time. The ones I'm using dry pretty quick, but not as quick as gouache.

 

Excellent work Martin, I really will have to give these a go at somepoint. Like Bryn says, they've got real potential in 2mm for subtle effects. Have you had a chance to try out the 'Jo's Sister'; varnish yet?Pix

Thanks B) I haven't had a chance to try out the 'Jo's Sister' varnish yet - did you ever find out if it was spirit based, or acrylic? It doesn't matter if you haven't, I'll give it a go at the weekend on something and will find out that way. If it works as well as I think it might, looking at it, it'll be good for finishing off the tanks, as I want them very matt.

 

They should work pretty well in 2mm, using the same techniques, but with much smaller brushes :P

 

Dave - Thanks for the kind words B)

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Cracking work Martin!B)(I've also just found your blog, glad I have!)

 

It looks so subtle I’ll have to have a go on a couple of my own oil and milk tankers.

 

Thanks for the example.

 

 

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Pixie

I haven't had a chance to try out the 'Jo's Sister' varnish yet - did you ever find out if it was spirit based, or acrylic?

 

I'm fairly certain that JSV is spirit based from what the guys in R&D told me, might be worth trialling a little bit before commiting the whole lot though just in case. I have got a little bottle of thinning agent from them so if you need some let me know and I'll pop it in the post. :)

 

I managed to get a set of oil paints last night, I'll let you know how I get on!

 

Pix

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Pugsley

Thanks Nick, I look forward to seeing how you get on.

 

Pix - I suspected JSV might be spirit based. I'll give it a go on something, by brush, at the weekend and see how it responds to cleaning up with the thinners I've already got. If it all goes OK, I'll run some through the airbrush over the completed tanks and see how we go.

 

I'll be very interested to see how you get on with the oils.

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