Highclere - 2mm Finescale

Hi Missy,

 

Looking good, I do like the Irish stuff!

 

With regards to the discussion of scale, don't forget that the LLSR had a much larger loading gauge and was running on 3ft track, as appose to the FR running on 1ft 11 1/2 with a fairly restrictive loading gauge. IMHO the difference between the 3 is as I would expect. A good comparison for Prince would be any photo's of it it 'The Engine House' at Highly where it was posed alongside some of the bigger stuff.

 

Keep up the good work!

 

Paul

Paul's right, Julia - some of the larger NG stuff rivals the smaller standard gauge stock (think of that huge South African Railways loco at Quainton - it's 3'6" gauge!), and Prince is tiny anyway. Not sure about the chassis on those etched NG locos though....

 

Glad you enjoyed the show - or the bits of it you visited, anyway!

 

Andy

Hi Missy

 

I think putting all three together might be the cause of the problem. You probably wouldn't see an engine such 'Prince' next to a Pannier in real life, so you are looking at it slightly out of context. Put 'Prince' in appropriate surroundings and I think that impression of the size being wrong possibly won't be such a problem. That's my thoughts anyway!

 

Lovely work as always. NG isn't really my thing, but that's some mighty fine etching you have there!

 

Tom

Is scale that important? It probably is if you're trying to boil water in a furred-up kettle.....

No its not to me....its more a matter of what looks right, is right......

Well its all a matter of opinion and how elastic you like your ruler. I suspect your give and take on scale is not more than my working tolerances. Your three models look just about right and are very neatly done. Where I find it awkward is between 152 and 148 I can accept either on 9.42 gauge but just sometimes you notice the difference between two vehicles together. I will live with it but you can see it sometimes.

Don

As mentioned by others here, the 57XX vs. Prince looks spot on based on meeting the both of them together at Highley!

Stunning stuff as usual Julia.

As to your argument about scale, I think you are absolutely right. The odd few thou here and there is of no import in the grand scheme of things. As you know I can be very cavalier in my aproach and rarely get comments about things being out of scale - and if I do I tend to ignore them. I happily run 148 and 152 stock alongside each other on the colliery and people have to ask - which means they can't tell.

There are plenty of people who will make a lot of noise about the need to build strictly to 2mm - but I tend to find that noise is about all they do make - the numerous 'I'm planning to.........', who we have all met at shows.

 

Jerry

Better to make something that includes a few compromises but looks right than to make nothing I reckon.

Keep up the good work.

 

Paul.

There are plenty of people who will make a lot of noise about the need to build strictly to 2mm - but I tend to find that noise is about all they do make - the numerous 'I'm planning to.........', who we have all met at shows.Jerry

 

Never has a truer statement been made. If I had a penny for every foot long piece of pure scale track and test wagon chassis I've seen... Sadly it is the assumption that active 2FS modellers are the ones kicking up the fuss about "1:152 only" modelling, the reality couldn't be further from the truth. Pure 1:152 is the goal, but normally only achieved by the dedicated few.

 

Every modeller is part artist and part engineer, sometimes the balance has to tip back and forwards to find a happy medium for a finished project. There is no point being micron perfect if it still looks like a bag of ****.

 

2FS - Modelling by any means necessary

I've always seen 2mm scale as being a wee bit flexible. What I find more important is making sure that everything is square and has the right proportions.

 

The Kerr Stuart is up to your usual high standards. I may be wrong, but the chimney might need a little fattening up.

 

Regards,

David

I don't know the Swilly engine but the other two look spot on and those Swilly engines were big beasties if pics are any guide. All in the garden (and that pic) looks just right to me Missy.

Pure 1:152 is the goal, but normally only achieved by the dedicated few.

 

My goal is an attractive model that will evoke the atmosphere I want and I don't give a fig whether its 1:152 or 1:148 I do not mind mixing the two but say after building the chassis and fitting the farish body I decide to scratch build say a 64xx do I build it to 1:152 when it might look a little small compared to the 57xx or would it be better to build it to 1:148. It probably makes little difference but I would know.

Don

Hi Guys, thanks for the vote of confidence. Like I said sometimes things just dont look right to me and its great to get a second opinion.

 

Hi Missy,Looking good, I do like the Irish stuff!With regards to the discussion of scale, don't forget that the LLSR had a much larger loading gauge and was running on 3ft track, as appose to the FR running on 1ft 11 1/2 with a fairly restrictive loading gauge. IMHO the difference between the 3 is as I would expect. A good comparison for Prince would be any photo's of it it 'The Engine House' at Highly where it was posed alongside some of the bigger stuff.Keep up the good work!Paul

 

Thanks Paul. That of course leaves me with another dilema, in that second photo I now have 3 engines which are 3 different gauges! That does mean that I will probably end up with an engine that I wont be able to run anywhere! At the moment I dont have any plans to build an Irish based layout...

 

Not sure about the chassis on those etched NG locos though....

 

Hi Andy. If building chassis was that simple! The idea was to try and get the three engines at roughly the correct height so it didnt distort the photo too much.

 

NG isn't really my thing, but that's some mighty fine etching you have there! Tom

 

Thanks Tom. I can only claim Prince as my own work really. Thanks for the advice about scale though, thats very true.

 

There are plenty of people who will make a lot of noise about the need to build strictly to 2mm - but I tend to find that noise is about all they do make - the numerous 'I'm planning to.........', who we have all met at shows.Jerry

 

Very true as usual Jerry. Its one of my gripes about people who are insitant on getting things spot on and therefore struggle and get very little done. If thats what you want then fine but please dont judge others by your own standards.

 

Better to make something that includes a few compromises but looks right than to make nothing I reckon.Keep up the good work.Paul.

 

So true Paul, thank you.

 

Sadly it is the assumption that active 2FS modellers are the ones kicking up the fuss about "1:152 only" modelling, the reality couldn't be further from the truth. Pure 1:152 is the goal, but normally only achieved by the dedicated few.

 

Thanks for the reply Bryn, I think your post pretty much sums up how I feel. From what I have seen its not really 2mm modellers that are causing the fuss but quite the opposite, 2mm modellers on the whole seem to be the ones that just get on and do things. For some reason it seems N Gauge modellers are the ones that never seem happy and for some weird reason some treat 2mmFS like it shouldnt exist. Why are people insistant that I shouldnt be running N Gauge stock on my 2mm layout? I dont have an issue with it at all...

 

2FS - Modelling by any means necessary

 

I think Im going to put that in my signature bit at the bottom its that good!

 

What I find more important is making sure that everything is square and has the right proportions.

Regards,David

 

Hello David. Thats something worth remembering, it really makes a difference when things are square. I think I am lucky that I seem to have an 'engineers eye' and am pretty good at noticing when things arent.

 

I may be wrong, but the chimney might need a little fattening up.Regards,David

 

No, you are right! Its a temporary chimney until I can find something a little more suitable. I cobbled it together out of a couple of bits of tubing and my mini drill thingy. It just looked too weird without one.

 

I don't know the Swilly engine but the other two look spot on and those Swilly engines were big beasties if pics are any guide. All in the garden (and that pic) looks just right to me Missy.

 

Hi Mike, the Irish engine does appear quite large compared to the others. There is a bit of me tempted to finish it off just to see what it does look like compared to the others.

 

M