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I note in the Obituaries section that the name of that great modeller, Roy Jackson, is now present. Roy died peacefully on Saturday evening, with his family and closest friends present. I'm putting this little piece on my thread because I think it's more personal. What can one say by way of a tribute? He was a dear friend of mine for decades, and I consider him to be one of the greatest modellers of his generation. Though I knew of him from his Gainsborough Central days, I first got to chat to him at one Manchester Show where he, Geoff Kent and John Philips were showing High Dyke. I was transfixed, and saw nothing else of the show. I watched it for over a couple of hours and Roy engaged me in conversation. I complimented him and the others for such a great layout, but then had the temerity to point out that an A3 he'd made had the wrong dome. A moment passed, then I was effectively asked if I liked sex and liked travel? If so then f**k off! I immediately thought, here's a man after my own heart. We became instant mates. It was my privilege down the years to photograph his final EM Gauge masterpiece, Retford. I'd taken a few shots of Dunwich, again built by the fabulous trio, and also some of Geoff Kent's Blakeney and most recent Black Lion Crossing, for which Roy had built the pointwork, attended to some of the wiring and built some stock, but it's Retford for which he'll be remembered the most. What an heroic project. It took a man of great vision to conceive it, and even greater vision to embark on building it, some 25 years ago. That it's not completed is of no matter. It stands as a testament to a great modeller - a leader as well, because many others have contributed to Retford down the years, including (in a tiny, tiny way) me. He was an inspiration. I saw him for the last time just over three weeks ago, and his conversation was typical. 'It's King's Cross, Tony; the end of the line!' His wicked sense of humour was still there, in spades! Potentially the greatest model railway ever made? I think so! This shot of Roy's Retford in EM was taken a few years ago, before both fiddle yards expanded. This is a shot of the GN fiddle yard before it was expanded and filled with more trains. The HST was a visitor! North Junction at Retford, with the completed buildings made by Geoff Kent. Typically, Roy made the loco. And the south end, with still much to do - and still to do. What made Retford so personal to me was that it was my favourite trainspotting place, some 60 years ago. I could be one of the figures! And Roy's last loco. Still as good as any other, despite his failing faculties. All his Pacifics ran as 4-6-0s. It's my immense privilege to own a Roy Jackson-built loco. He made this DJH 9F in OO of all things, and I was presented with it by way of thanks for my having made a chassis (in EM) for one of Roy's locos. It was also a huge privilege to have him here from time to time, running Little Bytham. RIP Roy.

No advice needed, Phil's got a grip on all angles with it and has done a lot more work than may be visible to anyone else. I don't think he'll let me go on holiday again though.

I have spoken to the Liquidators and they have said they will send me a statement. I raised the spectre of hundred of RMwebbers ringing up and suggested this would make everyone's life easier.

And this is the key. The officers of RevolutioN and Cavalex all have well paid full time careers outside the model industry (as do I), and so remove the main drain on resources for their projects. The crowdfunding is used purely on the production and marketing of the product. Rewards for them are earned from the result of completed sales, not during design and manufacture. Even a modest salary will quickly drain resources, and once delays are introduced, the losses become a vicious and inescapable cycle due to the need to make regular salary withdrawals - Delays to RevolutioN or cavalex are an irritation, but do not bear this financial overhead. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but had Dave chosen to concentrate on delivering one or two projects, living from an alternative income, things may have turned out very differently.

Steve has been in touch with me with an update. Firstly, he'd like to thank those who have been concerned for his health. The good news is that a house move has put him much closer to his treatment centre and the prognosis is good for the future. At the moment, the treatment is arduous and makes him extremely lethargic and non-communicative. Little Loco Company has several interested parties interested in the business and Steve is hopeful that the negotiations will bring about a result that will assume all the obligations to customers. Due to his heath, these negotiations are moving slowly and there will be an update as soon as there is progress to report. Long term, his efforts are on recovering his health and then some railway-related ideas for Kitpart, but ones that are a good deal less stressful!

Did you tell them you're our carer

ECML on Stoke Bank again today with another set of photos taken from the bridge at Swayfield. The dates range from 1972 to 1981, the changes are interesting to see. Swayfield Class 55 perhaps 9006 10.00 Edinburgh to Kings X The Flying Scotsman Oct 72 J3113.jpg Swayfield Class 47 1578 0835 Halifax to Kings X Nov 72 J3130.jpg Swayfield Class 55 1600 Kings X to Edinburgh The Talisman June 73 J3214.jpg 9013?? Swayfield Class 47 down 30th May 78 C3873 Swayfield Class 254 down Aug 81 J7529

I think you can assume that they won't appear. I have Sharks and Mermaids on order with DJM I've had zero communication from DJM - nor do I now expect any. Trains4U is not owed any money and has not paid any deposits, so there is no reason for the liquidators to contact us other than as a courtesy (and I don't expect that to be honest) I expect this to be the same with all retailers concerned. I'm not sure why everyone expects the retailers to know what has happened? I found out about the insolvency here on RMWeb, and via word of mouth. We don't get notification from the Gazette (You have to look for it) and there are lots more interesting things to be doing than monitoring the progress of a minor supplier. So if a retailer isn't actively looking for the information, they won't be aware of it. I'm not sure either why people seem to have their pants in a wad because Hatton's and other retailers aren't making instant changes to their websites. In the grand scheme of things, it really isn't either urgent or important, and I'm sure they'll get around to removing the items and cancelling pre-orders in good time.

Good morning from a sunny Surrey. After the heavy rain yesterday and into the early hours I was expecting to see a moat around the shed but no surface water at all which is good. Bern filling the walls after first coat of paint yesterday. Hopefully the walls are now dry enough for the second coat. Electrician visited last night so fingers crossed for a reasonable price otherwise a second quote will be obtained. Today I will go and buy the laminate flooring and hopefully the dado level electrical trunking. This will allow me to add or reposition sockets as I require once the shed has been in use for a while. Tomorrow my other half's fathers funeral

Good morning from Bournemouth. Lots of wzter falling yesterday, but fortunately adter we had visted and enjoyed West Bay. Fish and chips were consumed outdoors , then a very good coffee in the Wi dy Corner cafe that's next door to Broadchurch police station. The beach is sealed off due to construction work on flood defences. I did like the old station that is now a cafe. Considering that jt apparently closed to passengers in 1930 and goods in 62 it's in good shape. Oon the way back we stopped and tezted some sets of indoor bowls and will return to orrow to make a purchase. Tea was scallops and herring roe on toast. Delicious. Today I head north to Henley on Thames to meet Mike and effe t an e change of goods. We might even spend a bit of time warching large objects move on parallel pieces of steel. Regards to all, and Q, glad that you got good news. Jamie

Yesterday afternoon it poured down. Last night it chucked it down. This morning it is tippling down. So far we're not afloat and since we're about 300 feet above sea level and the river Tern is something like 50 or 60 feet below us I have hopes that we'll stay that way. Saw a different nurse yesterday who said that I definitely have an ingrowing big toe nail that will probably have to come off so she is referring me to a podiatrist and in the meantime I have to have the dressings changed twice a week. Bu**er! Got a meeting of a local charity committee that I'm on later this morning. I was going to go on my bike to get some much needed exercise but since it doesn't have oars or a rudder I'll probably have to have a rethink. Have a good day everyone and good news from Q. Dave

Mooring Awl, inner Temple here, I awoke at about 01:45 due to heavy rain on the north side windows. I couldn't sleep so I got up and went to sofa, turned the TV on and it said 04:00 how did that happen... Meanwhile a Message from my sister , Dad's a lot better, why? It turns out he didn't have a heart attack, he had severe heart arrhythmia, why? The mix of drugs they had given him for his breathing difficulties were incompatible.. They did that before when the GPs got it wrong. Although Dad isn't susceptible to malignant hyperpyrexia under anesthesia like me, I suspect Dad is sensitive to drugs. Another 10 minutes and I'll have to get up Bye for now..

We are scheduled to go to the big city by train tomorrow -- I shall be a literal Early Riser as the train leaves before my normal get out of bed time. SWMBO is meeting 2 old work colleagues for lunch. Big worry is that they are playing some game there tonight and if they win they will be N. American champions. The stadium is right beside the railway station, so things may be immobile.

Ey up! As my match today is off a leisurely drive home through the rain seems to be the order of the day. Breakfast first though. C u later! Baz

East Anglia isnt a good place for assessing rising water levels, given that much of it is below sea level already. A perfectly abominable drive to work this morning - whole sections of the road North of Boston awash, with red silt running across the road at places, tree branches down.

Morning All Apropos of flooding, we are on a hill, and so far have almost got away with not a lot of damage - though Storm Demond caused havoc elsewhere in the village. Had our back patio doors been a better fit, we would have been OK, but the water level just came above the base of the door, due to the garden getting flooded just by the amount of rain. We suffered damage to the dining room carpet. In a nearby street there is a house for sale, and the Estate Agent has stated that there is a stream trickling past the end of the garden - we have seen that running as a raging torrent after a good rain. 30747 has just indicated that she wants to go to work early - back later. Regards to All Stewart

Boat launched successfully and, AFAIK, it's still afloat. I did take it for a short spin just to check out the mechanicals, as you do. Despite its great antiquity it is still capable of 43MPH so I thought I'd nip across the lake to a hostelry known to purvey adult beverages. It was closed. Not only was it closed but the entire establishment (a former haunt of people known to travel on two-wheeled vehicles with elastic-band transmissions manufactured by Harold, Dave & Sons) had been raised to the ground! It seems there will be a rather large hotel there in the future. Such is progress, I suppose.

Good morning one and all A couple of interesting invitations came my way yesterday. One was from the singer-songwriter Elliott Morris, who announced that his album launch will take place later this month. That’s good, except that I already have a copy of the album! One loses track of time at my age but I do remember pledging a certain amount towards its production some time back. If I had pledged a little more I might have received an autographed copy as a reward. Never mind: that is easily remedied. I have accepted the invitation. The other was from The Independent, who have organised a discussion on the role of Pride in 2019. One of the speakers is Peter Tatchell and it will be interesting to learn what he has to say. Some would say that it’s just another opportunity to wear The Tie. I could not possibly comment! Had he been lucky enough to get tickets, my e-friend Harry would have been at the Spice Girls concert in Bristol last night. I suspect that the weather would not have been ideal for an open air concert. Harry is 27 and may not be old enough to remember when the Spice Girls last toured. I don’t! I remember suggesting to him that he may not even have been alive at the time, only to be greeted by a most indignant retort. Before I head for Stevenage this morning I have a pile of ironing to process. It shouldn't take long and will help to take my mind off all the wild and unrealistic pledges being made by prospective Prime Ministers. Not that I am given to being disrespectful, you understand, but it does appear to me that at least some of these worthies have developed the art of talking through a part of the body not designed for speech. You can fool some of the people all of the time ... Best wishes to all Chris

Return trip back home achieved. The M25 and M1 were very wet and lots of drivers had no car lights on... One accident passed on M1. According to her indoor a BMW facing the wrong way with a reshaped back end in the outside lane. Further along we passed the lorry involved parked on the hard shoulder. HH would a ma deuce or a 40mm gun but suitable if fitted to my car as an anti "lane hogger" device? Her indoors notes that said lane hoggers were mainly women drivers. Off to unpack. Baz

Morning all, Good news on the Q front. - reminds me of what the nurses used to say when I was in hospital about 19 years ago - 'our job is to stop the doctors killing the patients'. (The pharmacist's job was probably similar but on the face of things seemed to be more about saving the NHS money - until she talked to me, or rather I talked to her.) We currently have an inter-rain-um but the sky is 50 shades of grey. (plenty of cable ties in the garage, somewhere) and the visitor from France via Bournemouth should be here shortly if the ETA given by his route finding software is to be believed, time will tell. Following an exchange of goods we intend to head for 'somewhere on the GWML' as the visitor clearly has wish to see a proper railway with real trains as well as overblown green trams. Should I tell him it is near the trainspotting branch of Waitrose? I've already told him it's near the cheapest petrol station for miles around which might have influenced his choice - apart from the real trains that is. Enjoy your day one and all.

Good morning everyone It has just stopped raining, but the skies are still looking heavy and dark. Once Sheila has got herself ready WE are off to complete the Sainsbury’s Grand Prix. Yes, you will have noticed that I will be accompanied today, it would seem that she has to go and get a few things for the weekend that I’m not supposed to see! Later we have James and Amelia coming round for tea, so I’ll be making a cheesecake later on. The base will be done once all the shopping has been put away and the filling will be completed after dinner. It will be big enough for tonight’s tea, with just enough left over for tomorrow evening, when we have Ava, Evie and Max coming round. Q. Great news about your dad. Back later.

From various analyses of this debacle it appears to me that what was actually crowdfunded was the business of DJM not the individual models people paid their money for. The proposed product list was highly aspirational and the 14 car APT could best be described as a vanity project. Unless the household relied entirely on income from elsewhere, Mr Jones was going to have to draw on the crowdfunding to live, not just to do specific work on the projects. The latter is what funders might have expected but the longer things dragged on the less likely this was. Crowdfunding can work if there is a solid business or other income base to add it on to. The time-costly activities of research and CAD can be subsidised by the core business with crowdfunding kicking in close to the tooling stage. This is clearly a long way away from the route DJM chose which is why the money has run out. If I'm correct, people who are significantly out of pocket were unwitting investors in DJM as a whole, rather than making part payments on a particular model. The lack of communication and transparency was a significant concern but by that stage people had already paid over. The lack of a plan that indicated how funds would be spent over the life of each project was perhaps more of a warning sign. Alan

Morning all. It has stopped raining. It was quite sunny earlier but is a bit cloudy now. Royal Mail have sent me a text to say they have a package to deliver. This is a plastic shelf bracket that Aditi broke while cleaning the fridge at the weekend. My resin putty repair seems to be working but while spares are available we may as well get the proper part. Tony

Good morning all, Good news from Q. Well the rain has stopped after at least 21 hours tipping it down. Some blue sky and sunshine at the moment but more rain possible later. Tuesday means kids visiting today, Joe at lunchtime and Gemma after school so that's something to look forward to. Knee not quite so bad this morning so I may possibly venture out to the shed. No moats here either. You may remember that I said I was very naughty on Sunday. The parcel containing the results of my misbehaviour is due today so thinking about it I will have to venture out to the shed and try it out but with no track laid I need to find the rolling road. Trouble is at the moment I can't remember where I put it! It is also possible that when said parcel arrives certain barbed comments may be levelled in my direction by Management. She knows something is coming but not what, however this bridge has been crossed many times before and I have a very thick skin. Have a good one, A.M. Ibovvered.

Sheep Lane on a cloudy morning. June 1959.

Afternoon all, The visitor from France via Bournemouth is well and truly back on his way to the latter and might well be there by now if the traffic was kind. We duly exchanged goods and then headed for Tilehurst where the sight of 8 pieces of shiny metal in various slightly different parallel arrangements seemed to be much appreciated by the visitor. We also visited the trainspotting branch of Waitrose for foodstufs (no bottles of Tizer thank goodness) and finally he deposited me at Reading station whence I took train homewards - and saw a train he would no doubt have been keen to see as it zoomed past loudly proclaiming LNER amongst its red & white paint job. The inter-rain-um fortunately lasted for most of the visit especially when we were looking at passing trains.

I think I can get my hands on an "Aden" gun pack, any good to you?

There is, of course, a solution from further along the coast. You just need different rolling stock.

Mawning! Behold Chewsday, and it's been raining here since midday yesterday. Plenty of local flooding in low areas and unhappy campers commuters. I'd planned on providing a visual of the current transport (as has been requested in the past ) even though it's rather pedestrian, but the eternal rain has so far prevented me from wanting to take a picture! Nothing exciting/interesting or even mundane to report from yesterday save the rain. Against my better judgment, and the suggestions of others, I ventured again into the "DJM, the end", thread, not pretty 17 and chuckinitdarn driving in, expecting 25 for a high and the rain diminishing by midday. Tally ho

Weather in sunny Teignmouth is today variable. Babbacombe is visible at present but 20 mins ago was unavailable for a sighting. The illuminated Waitrose signs were proudly powered by electricity last night despite the shop having finally closed at 4pm on Sunday. If it is to become Lidl as is suggested it will be a pretty mahoosive one. I wonder what becomes of the car park for the interim period? Just adjacent to the town I would hope it was left open but I doubt it will be.

Morning dawning, Wet and more drops landing. I know we need some but it would be better if less concentrated so the ground can absorb it. Even CowboysRUs were stopped by precipitation and wind yesterday; craning roof trusses onto nearby erections eventually proved more destructive than constructive but they are having another go as I speak. Had they built these houses using sectional panels fabricated off site, they would have been completely weather-proof months ago. I have to say that Jamie’s scallops and herring roe on toast wets my appetite but would be refused by SWMBO so no chance then. Being Tuesday, Ian the fish man will be due later, I hope his catch hasn’t swum away. Grandson No1 has end of year school exams so will not be attending golf lessons, saving me the drive and giving me more time to prepare for the weekly cribbage session this evening. Probably the ICC World Cup will be delayed so a little light modelling could be in order, particularly if a delivery of Wago cage-clamp wire joiners appears sooner rather than later, required to overcome a reverse loop error I made under previously wired baseboards that I am unwilling to lift and unable to work under with a soldering iron. For those on the roads, avoid the puddles and positive vibes to all.

Morning All, Rain is the order of the day today. It may well brighten up later, but at the moment it is rather on the wet side! Time for a coffee - Have a good day everyone...

Some of the staff look slightly inebriated. Mind you, if I had to work all day in a theme park I would be too.

Good evening everyone The blue skies lasted until just after dinner, when it started to rain, although it didn’t last long. There had been a couple of light showers earlier in the morning, but they only lasted for a minute or so. However, by mid afternoon it was raining steadily and is still doing so now. This morning I managed to fill in all the gaps in the plasterboard that needed doing. These were mainly around light switches and sockets, but there were a couple gaps that were close to the junction of the wall and ceiling that also needed doing too. This nicely brought dinner time. After dinner I pottered about in the cellar, mainly storing away power tools that are no longer required for the job. I then switched on the computer and printed out the circuit diagrams that I’d drawn up a few months ago and taken them down to the workshop. Hopefully in the next week or so I’ll finally get round to actually building one, albeit initially on breadboard to see if it actually works in practice. After tea I had a short rest before setting off for Salford Quays for a swim. Once again the water temperature hadn’t moved (16.4C) but the dull, wet weather made it feel colder than it probably was. Although, for some reason it did seem to affect my breathing tonight, on a number of occasions I had to stop and catch my breath, so when I got close to the end of my 3rd lap, I decided to call it a day and get out. Throughout my swim it rained continuously, not heavy but enough to disturb the water surface, so maybe that had something to do with it. Anyway, once home, I hung my wetsuit up in the cellar to dry and then poured myself a Guinness. Goodnight all

Our nearest church is 10 metres above sea level. We are 34 metres asl. The church is quite old. There is a substantial drainage ditch next to it. At one time boats used to have a landing stage nearby. The church was built on the site of a previous Anglo Saxon church that had been built to celebrate the defeat of the Danish sea raiders who had landed there.

Evenin' each. Good news, not so good news and bad news from the Land of Sutt tonight. Good news is that I spent time in the shed and all old boards now cleared of track, ballast and wiring so new construction can commence. Not so good news is that The Knee is protesting. A lot. And more. Bad news is that today's expected parcel (which I paid extra postage for nominated day delivery) is not coming until tomorrow so I'll have to wait in again. Tomorrow I was going to take The Boss out for the day. Oops. The only good thing about that is the place where we were going to is mainly outside and the weather forecast tomorrow is not very good. At least the young lady at the supplier took full blame, apologised profusely and within 10 minutes of me putting the phone down I had an email apologising again and notifying me of a refund of the extra postage in excess of what I'd paid. We are going out on Thursday for a double celebration so Herself is not too miffed. I.D. Odgedabullet.

Lane hoggers. On the 4 lane motorways lane three seems to have become the preferred lane for the about 50 mph on an otherwise empty road people. The combination of wrong lane and faulty lights seems a common one this year. Or perhaps these people only drive at the same time as me on the M25. We had an amusing one recently. I could see a slow car ahead in lane 3. I pulled out from lane 1 gradually to lane 4 and overtook and moved back in. Absolutely no cutting or aggressive behaviour on my part. Next thing I realise is that the car has moved alongside me and the driver was waving his fist and other gesticulations. Odd people about. Tony

Been chucking down all Day, I'll be swimming home in the landrover shortly. Major unit now on cross check.. That customer complaint, i've now measured the reference in two different ways, 1 is 5.7ppm different, The other method is 0.7 ppm different. The uncertainty we claim is 91ppm on 1 G Ohm, but Unofficially I know our acheivement average is 18ppm. The customer complaint....400ppm... me thinks their shiny new equipment is not set up correctly.. Time to go do my time sheet..

Following on from last weeks hail storms and high, tree toppling, winds Belgium yesterday had huge amounts of flooding in parts of the country. I guess it was similar to what parts of the UK received yesterday. We seem to be fairly safe here as we are quite high up, but so is Dawlish station which stands several metres above road level and one end of it opens towards the promenade. Even so the station has flooded between the platforms. How does that work?

Horizontal drizzle when I took Ben the Border Collie out on patrol, found the cover of the boat blown back, soggy boat, cover put back over with beams of wood on it to help holding it down. Ben still wanted to play ball . no chance in that. Weather turned to horizontal rain on the way in, roads covered in water side to side in some places, I can hear it's just got heavy again on the tin roof. Yesterdays work, went well however, the boss came in saying a customer was querying the value of some of the 1 G ohm resistors they've just bought, as they've also bought a fancy new measuring machine. So later I have several checks to do on our measurments.

Evening all from Estuary-Land. Last time I checked my house was over 50 metres asl. The nearest church is a Methodist one at the other end of my street but as it is newer than my house it doesn't count. The nearest 'old' church is Vange and that is about 35 metres lower.

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Kinlochmore has been subjected to a few small modifications of a botanical nature. The Scots Pines have a habit of moving around and multiplying when nobody is looking. The area around the cottage has gained a fir tree of some description and another large bush. The layout is now just about finished apart from a few small details like a station barrow and some odd and ends by the platelayers hut. David

A folllw up to my post about the death of my friend Mel. His daughter contacted me this afternoon and told me that she had had the redults of the PM. It turns out that the cause of death was a burst aortic aneurism. This was also what my mother and several of her siblings either died, of or with. My brother and I get scanned as often as possible. I'm not sure what the current NHS policy is with regard to the tests but can I encourage everyone to get tested. It's simple and pain free and can detect problems well in advance. If Mel had been che ked he would probably still have been modelling. The only up side of this is that his daughter no longer feels that she had not done CPR well enough to save him. Jamie

My neighbours who travel to Wales frequently to see family have had some nightmare journeys due to strange things happening with their car. They are taking it to the Land Rover dealer in Chelmsford tomorrow. They wanted it seen soon so rather than wait until a loan car or collection is available they are going tomorrow. I said I will go and collect them. Their car has a mysterious battery charging fault and I suspect as mine did (it had a mysterious charging failure too) they will not get it back until the following day. Aditi’s car has a tiny windscreen stonechip. The approved insurance repairer can’t fit it in for 10 days at their depot or for 2 weeks for a home visit. The approved repairer is in Romford. So I told them to forget it and I’ll pay for a repair locally. The car did pass the mot with the chip but Aditi was recommended to get it seen to. Our fridge bits arrived and now Aditi doesn’t have to feel bad everytime she opened the door and saw the bit I had to repair. I have a model railway related parcel coming tomorrow. Hopefully while one of us is at home. I have started putting scenic stuff back on my layout after all the garage modifications. I couldn’t really get too enthusiastic about hobbies this year but I have been planning bits and pieces. Tony

A follow up from my post a few weeks ago, we had the results of my scan today, and I am now officially cancer free!!! Let the layout building commence!!!

I suspect that AM I Bovered has developed / had a transplant of the same rhinoceros epidermis cells as I have - just don't go out in the rain too much as it tends to soften.

Good afternoon from our cliff top eyrie, where it has stopped raining and The Needles are sunlit. A good day has been had. Red liquid has been exchanged for a log cutting machine. Trains have been seen and appreciated and lots of wet roads have been travelled. Pratt nav said 1 hr 38 minutes. Journey there took 2 hrs 30 due to co gestion and failed traffic lights at J9 of the M3. Journey back took the same though that included a coffee stop near Winchester and an accident near Eastleigh. Jamie

Morning all from Estuary-Land. Glad of the news about Q's dad. I'm glad that I don't need much in the way of medication and nothing that requires prescription. It was bright and sunny this morning but now clouding over. Not much else except to say be back later.

Can I sue Jones for the extreme angst and distress cause by this thread .I dont have any thing on order but its become addictive and corrosive just reading it all .Its full of bile .hate .common sense and bad acting .A bit like East Enders I gather.I think i will start smoking again just to calm down .