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  1. When the Claughtons were rebuilt as Patriots, the names Private W. Woods V.C. and Private E. Sykes V.C. were retained, but L/Cpl J.A. Christie V.C. was not, on the grounds that he was no longer an employee of the LMS, whereas the others were. The photo (from the Bob Essery collection) shows Driver Woods at the controls of Patriot class 5536 bearing his name.
  2. Thank you. That's new information to me and very useful.
  3. I'm sure that you are right about the link to reserved occupation status, which had occurred to me as well. I started the thread because I was concerned that I might have missed a named loco, but this now seems unlikely. I have found out that : "From 1948 until the mid-1950s, the responsibility for recommending names for locomotives on British Railways rested with a Locomotive Naming Committee of three senior railway officers, E. S. Cox, George Dow with Derek Barrie as chairman. The Committee set itself several rules and over the years developed many practices. . . . . . . Another rule was not to use names of people who were still alive at the time, and some on the Committee had a strong dislike of names or associations with the military (largely because they were fed-up with the recently ended war). " (Wikipedia, BR Standard Class 7) I have not yet had chance to trawl the archives at Kew for the minutes of the BR Locomotive Naming Committee to check whether this information is correct.
  4. After the First World War, the LNWR honoured three of its employees who had volunteered for the army and who had all won Victoria Crosses, by naming three Claughton class locos after them: 1097 Private W. Woods V.C., 1407 L/Cpl J.A. Christie V.C., and 2035 Private E Sykes V.C. The LNWR and some other companies also dedicated one loco in honour of all of its employees who had been killed in action. As part of the research for an article I am writing, I am trying to find whether anything similar occurred after the end of WWII. At the moment I only have information on Driver Benjamin Gimbert GC and Fireman James Nightall GC who were awarded their medals for their bravery in averting a major explosion whilst driving an ammunition train which caught fire near Soham station in Cambridgeshire. Both these railwaymen had locos named in their honour, but not until 1981 when two class 47s were dedicated; currently their names are carried by two class 67s. More recently GWR has started to name some of its intercity trains in memory of WWII heroes, but as far as I can tell none of them are railwaymen. I am aware of the dedication on Stanier 8F 48733 (preserved on the Severn Valley Railway) as a memorial to all the members of the Corps of Royal Engineers (Transportation) who lost their lives in service, but this dedication was not made until 1986. Those Bullied Battle of Britain class locos which were named after individuals, were all named after high ranking officers. It may be that because nationalisation occurred so soon after the end of the war, no dedications of steam locomotives to railway employees were made, or equally it may be that I've missed something obvious. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
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    Planning is under way for THE Christmas Model Railway Show - Manchester 2021! A final decision about whether the exhibition will go ahead cannot be taken until late July at the earliest, but we hope to welcome visitors to our new and larger city centre venue subject to the government's Roadmap Step 4 being reached and maintained, and local authority regulations concerning the issue of an indoor market licence being achievable. To be kept informed of developments please sign up to our mailing list, by visiting: http://www.mmrs.co.uk/exhibition/
  6. I think that Phatbob and MartinWales need to check their facts with a reliable source before posting - perhaps they got us mixed up with the Manchester Museum of Transport exhibition which would have been held in mid May and was cancelled. The decision on the format (if any) of the Manchester MRS show this year will be taken in a scheduled committee meeting on July 16. Of course it is true that the prospects for staging our exhibition are bleak, bur remember that this is Manchester - we do things differently here. If anyone wishes to be kept informed about our exhibitions, simply sign up to our mailing list. You can do this by going to the MMRS website, or emailing [email protected] ,or dropping me a PM, or even just replying to this thread. Anything to show that we are complying with GDPR. Philip1812 aka Exhibition Coordinator, Manchester Model Railway Society.
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    THE Christmas Model Railway Show - Manchester 2019! The only model railway exhibition to be held in the centre of a major UK city. Twenty layouts, most featured in the modelling press, a wide selection of traders, modelling demonstrations and other attractions, all in a comfortable venue with excellent catering and only 3 minutes walk from Manchester Piccadilly station. Doors open at 10am each day with tickets on the door at £10 per adult with accompanied children FREE, but advanced ticket holders pay less and get in earlier! Full details of all aspects of the show can be found at www.mmrs.co.uk/exhibition where you can buy advance tickets for just £8.50 per adult with no booking fee. All visitors will receive a FREE exhibition guide.
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    Event Name: THE Christmas Model Railway Show - Manchester 2018! Classification: Exhibition Address: Barnes Wallis BuildingAltrincham StreetManchesterM1 7JA Day 1: Saturday 1st December Opening times Day 1: 10:00 - 17:30 Day 2: Sunday 2nd December Opening times Day 2: 10:00 - 16:30 Prices: Adult on door £9Adult in advance £8Children FREE Disability access: Yes Car parking: Yes Website: www.mmrs.co.uk/exhibition Organising body: Manchester Model Railway Society Organiser: Philip Sweet07917 [email protected] Christmas Model Railway Show – Manchester 2018! Variety: Nineteen layouts, thirteen different gauge/scale combinations, prototypes from seven countries in eras ranging from 1880 to 2018. Convenience: Three minutes walk from Piccadilly mainline station, Piccadilly Metrolink tram stop and Chorlton Street Coach station. Bus stops for 35 routes all within six minutes walk, plus Piccadilly Gardens bus hub les than ten minutes away. Cheap parking in a multi-storey car park 150m from venue (£2 all day) Entertainment: Demonstrations, trade stands, historical re-enactors, Armistice display, children’s layouts, competitions, festive catering. Saturday 1st December, 10:00 – 17:30 Sunday 2nd December, 10:00 – 16:30 Doors open for advance ticket holders at 09:45 (or a bit earlier if it’s safe!) Advance tickets: £8. Tickets on the door: £9 Accompanied children under 16 free. (max 3 with each adult) On line ticket sales through our website, together with full details: http://www.mmrs.co.uk/exhibition/
  9. THE Christmas Model Railway Show – Manchester 2018! Saturday 1st December, 10:00 – 17:30 Sunday 2nd December, 10:00 – 16:30 Doors open for advance ticket holders at 09:45 (or a bit earlier if it’s safe!) Advance tickets: £8. Tickets on the door: £9 Accompanied children under 16 free. (max 3 with each adult) On line ticket sales through our website, together with full details: http://www.mmrs.co.uk/exhibition/ Variety: Nineteen layouts, thirteen different gauge/scale combinations, prototypes from seven countries in eras ranging from 1880 to 2018. Convenience: Three minutes walk from Piccadilly mainline station, Piccadilly Metrolink tram stop and Chorlton Street Coach station. Bus stops for 35 routes all within six minutes walk, plus Piccadilly Gardens bus hub les than ten minutes away. Cheap parking in a multi-storey car park 150m from venue (£2 all day) Entertainment: Demonstrations, trade stands, historical re-enactors, Armistice display, children’s layouts, competitions, festive catering. Layout Name Scale/ Gauge Location Era Addison Park 3mm/14.2 London Transport 1950s Ambleton Vale N Western region, Southern England 1965 Arcadia Pennsylvania terminal O (1/48) US 1960s/70s Arun Quay O (7mm) Sussex 1950s Barton Road (MMRS) OO Manchester 2000 Behind the Lines OOn9 France: The Somme 1918 Black Lion Crossing EM Welsh borders 1950s Danny at the Zoo 10mm/OO Fantasy Deansmoor N Stockport area 2000 -15 Dufton Road OO UK 1980/90s Fort Whiting OOn9 South Africa 1930s Hallam town 2FS Sheffield 1970s Hounslow Sidings OO West London 50s-60s North Ballachulish EM Scotland 1970s Oakhurst Town S7 Kent 1880s Pwllheli P4 North Wales 2000 - 12 Readham OO Cotswolds 2018 Tarring Neville OO BR(S) 1960s Zauberwald Oe E Germany 1960s
  10. The trader's list has been updated and now includes our first European trader - JellyModels, who manufacture some rather nice narrow gauge models and also some nicely painted military vehicles.
  11. Hi George Could you check your inbox please? I sent you an exhibition invite a couple of days ago and I don't think you've seen it. Phil
  12. It'll be at the Barnes Wallis again next year, Dave, but with a bit more floor area, especially for catering. The dates are Sat 3rd and Sun 4th Dec 2016. Layouts so far booked include Elcot Road and Portchullin (both P4), World's End (OO) and Melton Mowbray North (N). The Coop buidling is being redeveloped as a hotel so isn't available for hire. We should be at the Barnes Wallis until Network Rail decide when they're going to widen the tracks between Piccadilly and Oxford Road - that will cause us a few problems. Phil
  13. Glad you enjoyed it. I think that there were baby changing facilities in the disabled toilets in the lobby and at the far end of the cafe, but I'm not sure and will check this when I visit the venue for our evaluation meeting. Phil
  14. Well, I've finally got time to post on RMweb again - I've been catching up on real life and also writing thank you letters to all of the exhibitors and traders who supported us. Thank you to all of the contributors to this strand who have, on balance, given us a pretty clear thumbs up. I've now got the provisional attendance figures, and very pleasing they are too. The provisional total attendance of adults and children is 2725. This makes it our best attendance since the last three day exhibition in 2008. It is the highest attendance for a two day exhibition we have had in recent times and even exceeds the last two day exhibition in the city centre in 2009; it is almost twice as high as our attendance at our last exhibition in October 2013. The winner of the MMRS Judges Cup for Best Layout was Herstmonceux and the winner of the Visitor's Shield for Best Layout by Public Vote was Whiteacres. Both of these have featured as headline layouts in the model press this year, and they were indicative of the standard, or the potential, of all the layouts there - except the Coronation Street Woodhead layout (which I've always described as a theatre prop with marketing potential!) In addition to the four problems I mentioned in my post in the early hours of Sunday morning, we have identified four other areas where we need to improve: 1 signage on the route from Piccadilly station 2 space to park prams and buggies 3 viewing heights for wheelchair users 4 the mix of traders; perhaps too much emphasis on RTR box shifters. We'll be working on these over the next few months, but you can already put our next exhibition in your diaries: THE Christmas Model Railway Show - Manchester 2016! will be on Saturday 3rd and Sunday 4th December 2016, though the opening hours have yet to be confirmed. Headline layouts will include World's End (OO), Melton Mowbray North (N), Elcot Road and Portchullin (both P4). There are several more on the short list, but I wanted to evaluate the problems encountered in the first year at the venue before making any more firm bookings - and I hope to book a good tram layout next year as well. Now to the other points that have been raised by RMwebbers: The low ceilings gave a cramped atmosphere. Personally I'd prefer a comfortable, carpetted venue with normal room height ceilings to the echoing and impersonal vastness of a sports hall, but that's just a personal view. The reality is that we investigated 48 venues in the Manchester area and the Barnes Wallis was the one that came closest to "ticking all our boxes." Its obvious advantages - centre of city, near to Piccadilly, easy road access, low cost parking, decent catering, cost of hire etc, outweighed its disadvantages, of which size is one. In my research, the average size of a municipal sports hall is about 1200 sq m (our last venue, the Armitage centre, was about 1450 sq m). The two main rooms at the Barnes Wallis total only 1060 sq m. We knew it would be smaller, but we still managed to get in two more layouts than we did in 2013. There aren't any more big rooms at the venue, but we will be using both the upstairs cafe and the downstairs restaurant, which should release a bit more floor area for exhibits, and we will probably use another small room as well, it will depend on cost. Catering was poor/ cafe queues were long. We were taken by surprise by the numbers - 718 people through the doors in the first hour and the cafe queues were unacceptable. By mid afternoon on Saturday, the venue management had approached us and told us that they would be opening a second food area the next day, bringing in extra catering staff specially. The next day was much better, but still not good enough. It seemed to me that the problem is the same that you get in any high street coffee shop: getting stuck behind people who want fancy bespoke frothy coffees which take ages to make when all you want is a cup of tea! We'll talk to the venue management with a view to having the drinks and food queues separated - watch this space. I think that the quality and price of the hot meals was acceptable myself, but that's got to be a personal view. Not enough big layouts. Where, pray, do we put them? Have a little doodle. Draw a rectangle to a scale 50m by 16m, then put two rows of pillars, 9.3m apart with spacing between the pillars in a row of 4.77m. Now come up with a way of fitting in more than two large roundy-roundy layouts without wasting an inordinate amount of floor space and laying yourself open to the complaint of "not enough layouts"! When you've found an answer let me know! Seriously, the venue is more suited to long end to end layout, eg Herstmonceux and Calderwood, and, next year the 8m long N gauge Melton Mowbray North. Anyway, big isn't necessarily the same thing as beautiful. Tollesbury Quay, for me, was the best layout in the show yet is less than 4.5m long. Aisles were not wide enough. Yes, there were pinch points - the aisles by the way were deliberately not all the same width. The worst pinch point was by the C&L sales stand. We've learnt. We'll try to have wider aisles next year where we can - but remember those pillars and also remember the need not to waste what space we have. To my surprise and relief, the paramedic that we had on duty all through the exhibition did not have to deal with any medical problems caused by overcrowding. Bring back the metal barriers. Only if hell freezes over before the next exhibition. Quite apart from the huge amount of volunteer labour needed to transport three quarters of a tonne of steelwork and erect it, the metal barriers only really work for rectangular enclosures and this limits my options for the floorplan of the halls. Nobody has mentioned it, but there were deliberate dog-legs in both main aisles in the large hall, which not only allowed me to pack in layouts and traders more efficiently but also made it more visually interesting. There you have it. Overall, I think there was more right than wrong, and we'll do even better next year. Thanks to all RMwebbers who came to the exhibition, and if you didn't, make sure you do next year. If anyone has any further comments about any aspect of the show, or if they have a suggestion for a layout that's worth investigating for a possible invite, please email me at [email protected] Phil Exhibition Coordinator, Manchester Model Railway Society.
  15. It's just gone midnight and this is the first chance I've had to go on line (had to go to a concert this evening). I have not yet had time - nor will I until Monday evening - to read the comments which have been posted, but, as exhibition coordinator for THE Christmas Model Railway Show - Manchester 2015! I will respond to them all, either by personal email or by general blog posting, as soon as I can. In the meantime, if you commented adversely about: 1 Queues to get in 2 Crowded aisles 3 Queues in the cafe 4 Lack of seats in the main exhibition halls Here is what we have ALREADY done to improve things. 1 Entry queues. We opened the doors today at 0956 to advance ticket holders and as soon as waiting advanced ticket holders had been processed we opened the doors to the general public (at about 2 minutes to 10. We had planned to open earlier, but the late arrival of two traders meant that the venue was not safe for th public. We will respond to the presence of a lengthy queue on sunday if necessary. 2 Yes. We've identified some pinch points, and will bear this in mind for next year. The presence of pillars down teh main hall is a problem. 3 Tomoorow there will be TWO cafes open in the venue, not one as today. 4 Two stands "grew" between planning and arrival. This caused some planned relaxation seating to be removed. We have now added about 15 extra seats at different places around the exhibition. To those who commented favourably above. THANK YOU. both for supporting us and for your positive feedback. Phil
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