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    not that far from the 1883 (SAR) Belair Railway Station, South Australia
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    LNWR, LMS, specifically Camden Passenger Engine Shed, (LNWR-1) (LMS-1B), Camden Bank, Primrose Hill, and Camden Goods Station 12th June 1936. LMS locomotive, passenger and goods rolling stock for that day.

    The exhibition layout is a scale* end to end viewing across the goods station yard, across the main lines, onto the shed, bridge to bridge.
    *scaled back slightly after the goods station proper, as it heads down the bank towards Euston.

    The date is specific for a number of reasons, and is intended to control the timetable and the stock being run as authentic for that day, although being a Friday has resulted in some train formation difficulties, mainly in both fiddle yards, which are already (on paper) each six metres long.

    The scene is post LNWR, prewar LMSR, Stanier 'Princess Royal' class, and Fowler Royal Scots provide the mainstay motive power, with Claughtons, Patriots, engines picking up intermediate express work, and Prince of Wales, and George the Fifth types working outer suburban services along side the LNWR DC sets.

    The shed has been recently upgraded with a new roof, turntable, coaling and ash plants in service.

    The LMS were busily working towards 16 November 1936 and the famous scottish non-stop express run, with 6201 Princess Elizabeth at its head, and with Tom Clark and Fireman Charles Fleet and Passed Fireman Albert Shaw on the footplate, it reached Glasgow Central in 5 hours 53 minutes 38 seconds, what a time in history that year must have been.
    So why the interest in the LNWR, LMSR and Camden.
    Born in Liverpool, I grew up near Old Swan, my station was Broadgreen, now the oldest operational passenger station in the world. My Christmas presents were of course Dinky and Gorgi, but also Triang and Hornby, later including Minic Motorway, so special where these gifts, I still have all of them, slightly worst for wear, today. When emigrating to Australia we passed what was left of Camden Shed (nothing) but sidings.
    As is normal in life, relationships, cars, family, career took precedent, but my interest never dwindled. In later years, while researching for a layout design, a copy of BRILL illustrated the perfect mix I was searching for, and what had been lost basically without trace.
    Later and so encouraged by the work achieved others such as Iain (92220) Camden Shed (rmweb), and Vincent Worthington who are well along their journey, I also aim to capture my version of this iconic location for those interested.

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  1. Hi Jol, Best wishes for the new year. Control panel looks the business, if possibly a little weighty, but plenty of room for a couple of handles if needed. Thanks for taking the time to keep us all updated on your progress.
  2. LMSR 6202 (R30134) Turbomotive I recently received the Hornby LMSR 6202 model, via Hatton's. I was stunned as I opened the shipping package, and the product packaging, so well done by both Hornby and Hatton's to ensure it made the journey safely (Australia) it was a joy as it was opened up. The actual model is beautiful at first glance, everything looked perfect, however on closer inspection of the cab detail and finish, I would say it was disappointing, points as follows: the crude removal of the knee guard on the drivers side, is very poor, nearly upsetting, as it is a left over from the standard Princess Royal Class cab. the reverser screw gear is incorrect for 6202, and would have been better left off this build. When comparing this 6202 (R30134) with 6201 (R3709) the detailing and quality/finish of the 6201 cab does exceed that of the 6202. Notwithstanding pricing difference of each product, these issues require attention on future batches to ensure brand sustainability, and loyalty. On an up note, there appears to be real progress regarding colour matching across the different materials which make up the model, this together with the promoted features, I am sure will be well received. this is the 6202 as produced, and as referenced in the text above. this is the 6201 cab as produced, with more attention to the smallbore piping, the reverse screw assembly is also better presented.
  3. Hi Ian, yes, you are correct, as constructed with boiler No 9100, 6202 didn’t have a shed code plate attached, although it appears to have had bolting points for such an attachment. After the July 1936 Crewe heavy overhaul, 6202 was outshopped with a new boiler No 9236, after which, receiving a 1B shed code. A difficult item to spot due to the oil cooler fall plate being in the elevated position when running.
  4. Daniel Kelham, of the LMS Modelling Society on Facebook posted some great 6202 and 6201 running footage on the Dewsbury Midland layout. There is also a 16sec clip with sound, which is perfect. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1377846428917638/permalink/6640420405993521/?mibextid=W9rl1R Definitely worth a look if your a member, or joining if you’re not.
  5. Quite right, regarding the ballasting, however the timbering would have served a number of purposes, firstly to prevent/mitigate ballast undermining from the large quantities of trough water ‘wash’ it would be exposed to every day, the timber would distribute the ‘wash’ evenly across the area, and to the cess drains. Secondly these water troughs required constant maintenance, these timbers would have delivered sound footing for permanent way gangs.
  6. At last, some facts, and value adding comments, unlike some in this thread to date. Thanks so much for taking the time to photo the retail version, and providing this ad hoc review. Also, thanks for the follow up strip down and lighting information. Mine is on its way too.
  7. Hi Peter, trusting you are in good health, hopefully the weather is treating you well also. had to smile at your list of questions, couple of years in that lot 🙂 to get the ball rolling, I’ve attached a link to a YouTube piece by Alex Scott, it’s very good first hand on shed experience. let me know how you get on, I also have a book by Laurie Earl, Camden driver of the day, it’s aimed at a schoolboy age, but it’s an interesting read regardless, it detailed the preparation and operation of the royal scot to Glasgow. Best wishes Stanley Hi Iain, yes still here, great progress, love the YouTube video clips. How is Vincent, have you caught up lately. very very best regards Stanley
  8. Hi Iain, Thanks, and thank goodness it was built in BR days 😃 gets me off the hook. The running session video looks fantastic, can’t get over how well everything looks and runs, definitely breaking some speed limits and making the bank look like something completely different to 1/70 🤣 as always stanley.
  9. Great video clip of progress to date Iain, your care and attention to the permanent way has really paid off in terms of smooth running, beautiful point transitions and not a wobble anywhere, fantastic. All the very best and thanks for sharing Stanley
  10. Great work on the electric motor bogie, very convincing, I need three, 00 gauge, six car sets, so very interested in your progress. I also have had similar issues viewing forum jpegs and drawings, including most of the jpegs that have been posted in this thread, although the later posts (motor bogie, and motor bogie drawing) look great. While there appears to be some work being carried out to rectify the drawing and photo problem, to date it’s been nearly a year. I’ve attached a number of photos to keep the conversation going, I trust no copyright is being breached and they are referenced where possible. best regards
  11. Terrible news, how upsetting for you guys
  12. LMS 6202, tender No9003, it appears, as noted in the comment from the Hornby Magazine YouTube channel, that the tender under frame is incorrect regarding the tender steps, hopefully this will be resolved before release
  13. Hi Iain, fantastic video, trackwork looks great, nice sound track too. Is that St Saviours steeple in the background, or am I just imagining it. Love the cross border pushing past the local as they crest the climb, perfect start to any morning
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