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cured this now, basically a piece of thin cardboard from a fag packet made better compression for the connection when screwing the chassis bottom down, after all that, thats all it was, had to manipulate the pick ups at the wheels a little aswell, they are pretty crap as with all modern loco's, all seems good now, thanks to all

hopefully i think i may have a bit of a breakthrough here, i disconnected the chip and wired the 2 motor connections to dc direct, motor working. however there was no connection on black wire from left pick ups, 2 pairs of specs later i have now seen the actual problem, underneath there are two contact points for the pick ups, round holes if you like with metal looking pins in the middle of them, the one for the left looks to have dropped back down the hole, thats all it is, getting it back is gonna be the difficult bit, from that i take it that the black wire from that side is power to the chip and if no connection there the chip dosent work, mkrob, optical illusion appears correct

Thanks for the reply's, looks like a sealed unit, i take it there is no way to cheat the system, ie join the orange wire to ground where the red is and the grey wire directly to the black wire, old school and bye bye dcc chip,or in otherwords as you say but using the wires only, i have posted a pic

Hi dont have a blanking chip, never had the wheels off so they are out of the equasion, thought you couldent put dc direct to motor without damaging the chip, so havent done that, part of me thinks its a short in some way as ive had that before with dc loco's, the other part thinks of the chip but in that case i have no way of knowing for sure.

After a few years i got out the fowler tank loco, on test it ran with a squeak, so did the usual thing and gave it a touch of lube here and there, the main gear from the motor was very dry to start with, i also cleaned up the pick ups which are strips that connect to two points, re assembled, easy enough, and now it dosent run at all,dead, cant think what ive done wrong here, on assembly made sure that the pick up points aligned with the two connections, i discovered it has a dcc chip, no dcc here and never had a problem in the past, all ive done since then is checked continuity, there is connection from wheels at one side to the earth point on top near motor, the two connections at the other end of the motor are no contact from anywhere, of course they go though dcc chip first i would think, i know nothing about dcc chips, i am no stranger to resurecting locos, and have done with old school ringfields x04's and spider motors many times, this one has me a bit stumped, can anybody help prevent this from becoming a mantlepiece ornament.

i did look in the usual places but couldent find the pipework, i did type in Hornby s8863 in google and found some sites selling them for 99p, wasent sure about those and a guy selling one on ebay for nearly 20 quid...yikes, for an evening star, plain old black one will do, i am not fussy. yes these 2 loco's are 20 years apart and between them the older one is better built and not so much detail. and 92156 is one of those super detail ones, more detail more delicate build, more to go wrong, some years ago i bought 92134 which is weathered spares or repair (i like 9f's) the wipers in the tender were shot and so were the pins for the ringfield gears, result was buying a tender exept tank on Ebay for a tenner off a britannia class, they were around a tenner at the time, not that now though, luckily it was/is in good order. the final 9f i have was also spares or repair, it came with hardly anything wrong with it, just a connection problem, they were all about 30 to 40 quid apiece at the time several to 10 years ago, this one had a little secret (92139) somebody had converted it to loco drive and as stated here the tender has the ringfield chassis but ofcourse no motor, i have read about people putting the super detail bodies etc onto more modern railroad models, so that one looks like one of those

thanks for the reply will check that suggestion out on the other loco i understand now, funny thing is it has the usual drawbar type contact from loco to tender, that loco is r264

Hi after a number of years ive ratched out some of my old railway stuff, one of them is the loco in the title, which to those who may not know is a 9f its missing a detail part, i am sure it was there at one time, though i will probably never find it, its the cab lower pipework (s8863), possibly a common loss on these loco's, does anybody know where i can obtain this item, it looks like a simple push in job, i have serviced the loco and otherwise its running great, appreciate any pointers. i have another 9f thats 20 years older i would recon, its complete and now serviced and also running great, when i serviced that one it had no pick ups on it whatsoever, thats a bit of a puzzler, how on earth does it get its power regards to all