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Info above corrected - thanks

That is why (when converting to DCC sound), I have modified the firebox glow to be only on when coal shovelling. Extra wires and modification needed, but as Hornby mostly put the decoder in the tender, the track feed from the loco pick ups to the firebox LED is an easy is option for them.

50% of the promised waiting time (as specified at York show) gone 🙂 Only 3 weeks to go - soooooo excited. Yes, I am behaving like an impetulant child and proud of it!

Might get a 6 To 4 while I'm waiting for a 25. Clue: Chicago

I watch Sam's Trains, and although it is mainly 'for a bit of fun', he does take the trouble to do a detailed examination. Some of his thinking is not always logical, for example extra weight does not mean extra quality, and should not be equated to the cost. But he brought to light a number of points with this new Black 5 to consider: a) It is virtually impossible to remove the lamps without causing damage, and probably would need some remedial work. Easier if they were not included in the first place. For a 'basic' version (see below), It would have been better for Hornby to provide non-working correct size lamps in the detailing pack. Much the same as the crew. Adding oversize lamps is moving away from finescale, whereas extra detail is moving towards it. The directions are conflicting. b) The tender connection is non adjustable for the gap, and the design is vulnerable. Not robust enough. Clearly he had a damaged connection 'out of the box', so one has to wonder how long before others have the same issue. c) The glue marks appeared quite bad. It is no good having a 'finescale' loco with extra detailing if it is not carefully assembled. d) No flywheel. Sacrificed for the steam generator. Not needed for DCC, but it is a move away from what was becoming a common standard. I guess it is difficut for the likes of Hornby. They need to sell more locos, and the lamps / steam will attract many customers, but this could have an adverse response from modellers who were looking forward to a newly tooled, potentially more detailed loco until it is seen that the play value additions compromise the detailing and peformance. I think this was mentioned up thread. Perhaps there needs to be different versions so that the play value additions are at added purchase price. And don't add new tech ideas for the sake of it. For example, the older models had adjustable connections between loco and tender for a reason.

Or Ellis Clark Trains with a OO, to follow the very fine O gauge.

I am considering getting one of these fantastic models but a bit late to the party. The one I was after with sound is sold out, so wondering if the sound system (decoder / speaker) is available separately and how easy to fit?

Just watched Sams Trains review. Oh dear! Considering cancelling the two I have on order. Having fitted sound, stay alives and firebox flicker to 3 of the 'old' Hornby models, I see little point in the expenditure. The old design enables a large 55 X 20 X 10mm Rail Exclusive speaker to be fitted in the tender. Not possible with the new design. Lamps are too large, tender to loco gap is too large (and not adjustable), steam is just a gimmick, so out with the Brassmasters detailing kits to finish the ones I already have. Sam maybe has a point, that it is no good adding gimmicks or supposed upgrades if it comes at the expense of the fundamentals.

Don't forget to kiss the side of your Deltic 😍

We really need DCC Concepts to bring back the lamps that they once produced. I did speak to them late last year, and it was being considered. I hope this inclusion by Hornby does not put them off. Unfortunately I could not get the correct lamps, but at least a correct size. They still need to be dimmed with some amber tint on the A3 as below. Comparison of Hornby and DCC Concepts.

Congratulations 👍 Was that a sound fitted?

Just had this reminder from Accurascale. I've been waiting for a sound demo before making a decision. Is there one out there?

Sorry Michael, I should have better explained. This was the amount based on two other cancellations combined. And I did order from KRM directly, but unfortunately my knowledge re UK Law on this subject was lacking, otherwise I would have not accepted these terms at the time. The Clayton DHP1 could well be my last order with them as I am unwilling to pay full price up front anymore for models with such large slips to timescales . I also need to get off the lazy RTR bandwagon, when I have a DJH 'Big Bertha' kit on the shelf waiting to be built. I also have all of the kits and parts to build a GT3, after lots of research and collecting, but then the RTR model was anounced and put the brakes on the kit build. Thanks for your help and advice.

Thanks. Looks as though they are contravening UK Law and owe me £48.50. When they replied to me about the refund, no mention of the admin charge. It was only when I looked at the refund value, I went into the terms and conditions and noticed the minus 10%. Come to think of it. It was cancelled - not even returned. Now I have to balance the 10% claim versus the stress this is likely to incurred.

Probably end up 2025 then. Considering to cancel and get refund. Problem is the 10% admin reduction charge. This caught me out on two other cancellations. Should gave read the small print.

Hello @The Ghost of IKB This one was reported up thread: A March emgauge70s update. Maybe a one off though, for sound fitted? As reported earlier, when I spoke with Phil at York RME, he said that my sound fitted D7599 would be 4 to 6 weeks. Hopefully I will get the call sometime in June '24. Perhaps in time for my Birthday in July 🤞

I think these RATS should have had a stay alive fitted 😪

I still have the Single from the original production. Runs perfectly and now has the Hattons Genesis coaches for company. I understand the sound files were derived from archived footage, however as the decoder will move to an ESU V5, will the re-run have upgraded sound files and speaker? No reply - looks as though I need to contact the company directly!

I wanted to store the MPV without having to uncouple the two cars. The coupling seems to be rather fragile, and is not only easy to damage but it's easy to get the cam for the coupling misplaced so that the coupling sits too low. So I have joined a couple of Peco SL-43s together: One pair of the aluminium sections is cut into two, so that the remaining larger pieces bridge the two base plates. To stiffen the connections at the 1/2 section aluminium section joins, styrene strips are inserted to bridge them. Loaded:

I adjusted the bass and treble on a newly install V5 for an MPV. A big improvement. Can I assume that I would need to update the firmware on Acc 37 decoders if I am to adjust CVs 196 and 197. I do have a Lok programmer so that should be easy enough.

Perhaps it was! It was on the Saturday afternoon, to the front of the layout in the right hand corner. I mentioned that my Dad was an Area Civil Engineer with BR, and I did no realise how lucky I was to walk the track with him, albeit a strange stride length. Hopefully Phil will announce something re the Tyne Dock 24s before the year is out?

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A wonderful layout, and an inspiring / lengthy chat with one of the operators when I was there. I should have asked his name! I would love to replicate the Tyne Dock pair of 24s with my iron ore wagons. Still waiting for SLW to announce a new run of these, but alas it could be a long wait as Phil is struggling with the 25s first. Dave

This is a relatively straightforward sound installation. I wanted to try out one of the new ESU speakers in the MPV. This is a smaller version of that used by Cavalex in the Class 56. It does mean some cutting and carving is needed to the cover on the base of the driven car. This is the kit used: The MPV driven car. Underneath. The speaker to be used. Under the cover. The speaker will just fit if resting up against the white washers as shown below. Any little protrusions from the chassis bed fixing have been clipped off. And the lugs clipped and filed from the speaker casing. Below is shown the removal of material from the underside cover. The speaker sits to one side, and so one edge of the cover also has to be removed to allow the fit. The speaker is shown against the cover. The speaker was fixed to the chassis with black tack, with the speaker wires threaded through the chassis adjacent to the motor housing. The decoder was fitted and speaker wires soldered. A view of the fitted speaker. Ready to test. The MPV was connected to a Lok Programmer, and the the treble / base values adjusted. This made a huge improvement to the sound which was already excellent with the ESU speaker. The future? Perhaps fitting floodlights and beacons.

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