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1911 is a good starting point. So you have the Weymouth and Weston-s-Mare through trains. You could even have a Farthing slip in both directions. And which locos may be under consideration? Maybe an Atbara or two. Dean Single?
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Berrington and Eye GWR/LNWR Joint Line 1912 - Layout
Brassey replied to Brassey's topic in Layout topics
Ok it's hold my hands up time. Having asserted on Mikkel's station blog that the LNWR never painted their station windows anything but white (since redacted by me), I have found, in the far flung corners of the LNWR, evidence of stations painted in chocolate, namely at Gowerton: A cursory look at the windows at B&E on the earlier photograph lead me to believe that they were painted entirely white. But on closure inspection, you can see that the glazing bars are darker. This is consistent with the earlier image. What promoted this re-examination was the amount of LNWR sourced items apparent on the stations. This shot of Ford Bridge shows a bench that is definitely LNWR in origin: The actual waiting hut, of which an identical one was at B&E, is most likely to be constructed from standard "Webb" hut components. Below is the station buildings at Verney Junction built from said components and the centre section with the door is identical to these huts. Being a joint line, responsibility for the stations switched overtime between the GWR and LNWR but the stations owed a lot more to LNWR style than I previously had been lead to believe. So my colour scheme is now going to lean toward LNWR practice. -
So what stock are you thinking of running? Your 150cm fiddle yards will limit you to about 5 corridor coaches with tender loco but that’s still quite impressive.
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Berrington and Eye GWR/LNWR Joint Line 1912 - Layout
Brassey replied to Brassey's topic in Layout topics
Having been prompted down this route by Mikkel's station blog and having thought more about it, I would not take this as gospel as being a definitive GWR scheme. Being a joint line that is not well documented, they could have implemented their own rules at some point and this is what we are seeing. Or it could have been local paint contractors doing their own interpretation. If you go back a couple of pages, there is a picture of the waiting hut at Berrington & Eye that is similar if not identical to the one at Ford Bridge. This has the windows in white. Although slightly later I am sure this photo was taken during the Edwardian/pre-WW1 period and this is what I have modelled. However, if I conclude that the glazing bars were chocolate on the station during the period I model then it could be simple just to paint them onto glazing material with a ruling pen rather than having the windows etched. The bars need to be about 0.5mm. This is too fine for laser cutting but the window frames in a lighter colour could be laser cut. -
Berrington and Eye GWR/LNWR Joint Line 1912 - Layout
Brassey replied to Brassey's topic in Layout topics
On the left of this pic, the waiting hut at Ford Bridge two stations down in the same period. This reflects the two-tone colour scheme of the main frames in white with the glazing bars and other details darker, probably chocolate: -
I've put on my layout thread a pic of Berrington &Eye station building https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/71033-berrington-and-eye-gwrlnwr-joint-line-1912-layout/page/5/which also shows a two colour scheme; the main frames in a lighter colour, possibly white, and the window bars dark. You can see from the upstairs open window at Ford bridge that the glazing bars were also painted dark on the inside.
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Need to remove WM smokebox door
Brassey replied to bluestag's topic in Kitbuilding & Scratchbuilding
Don't apply any heat. Apparently superglue can give off deadly fumes if heated! I'd be inclined to leave it. Once painted it probably won't notice as much and it looks pretty central to me. The hinge can give the impression that the door is lopsided. BTW the pipe union on the right hand blower valve doesn't look fully seated home though. -
Berrington and Eye GWR/LNWR Joint Line 1912 - Layout
Brassey replied to Brassey's topic in Layout topics
Following discussions elsewhere on the early GWR window bar colours, this is Berrington & Eye in the early 1900's with the bars painted dark, probably chocolate. Having built this building, I'm still cogitating over how to reproduce these delicate windows and am favouring etching. -
Mikkel, this is Ford Bridge, two stations down from B&E. Although a joint line, the 2 companies took it in turn over the responsibilities. For the period in question, I believe that the GWR had responsibility for the station buildings whereas the LNWR had control of the track and signaling. I have therefore assumed that the paint scheme and work undertaken on the line was GWR. Certainly this far South the GWR probably had the greater influence. Having said all that, on one of the signal box colours websites it states that the closest modelling paint colour to LNWR "buff" is GWR light stone so it's probably hard to distinguish subtle differences between the two! The responsibility for signaling switched in around 1907. So the wood on the brick box at B&E could have been painted in LNWR buff or GWR light stone but who could tell!. The photo is of Ford Bridge signal box from the same series and the windows on the box are painted white. Fascinating but mind-boggling stuff. Peter
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I have the same challenge with my station building. The early photos I have of it and other local stations in the early Edwardian period have them in chocolate. The pic above also seems to have the fence in chocolate or maybe black too.
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GWR & LNWR Pre-grouping 4mm locos workbench
Brassey replied to Brassey's topic in Kitbuilding & Scratchbuilding
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Advice on building a compensated chassis
Brassey replied to hayfield's topic in Kitbuilding & Scratchbuilding
I tend to build the chassis rigid on the Hobby Holidays jig first. That way I’ve got a better chance of getting it square and the axles parallel. Don’t forget the hole for the beam first. i cut out the horn guides after. We’ve had this discussion before but High Level hornblocks are by far the best use the rods to set the jig for the hornblocks. Obviously need to be jointed -
GWR & LNWR Pre-grouping 4mm locos workbench
Brassey replied to Brassey's topic in Kitbuilding & Scratchbuilding
The GWR Duke is now up on its wheels. This is to be 3328 Severn as seen at Hereford. Being one of the last batch, it has a BRO boiler ansd 2500 gal tender. This variant is not catered for in the Finney kit, so a bit of kit mingling/scratch building is required. The 1224 Mashima should fit straight up into the raised firebox.- 182 replies
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Hi John, OK. Yes I think they are and that must be a rather old kit. My Brassmasters Experiment class came with the cutouts and instructions prepared for Maygib hornblocks but they weren't included. It also had the cutouts for Studiolith hornblocks which must date back to the 70's. Also not included. I fitted MJT hornblocks but High Level would have done the trick too. I'm thinking of taking the plunge and building my C Class with CSB Peter
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John Good to see it coming along including the flangeless axle. Are those Maygib sprung hornblocks? Petet
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GWR & LNWR Pre-grouping 4mm locos workbench
Brassey replied to Brassey's topic in Kitbuilding & Scratchbuilding
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Sorry just noticed...
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Can I ask how you resolved the ride height of the bogie on this build?
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How did you resolve the bogie issue on this build? Does the bogie sit on the spring wire?
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GWR & LNWR Pre-grouping 4mm locos workbench
Brassey replied to Brassey's topic in Kitbuilding & Scratchbuilding
Despite the lo-tech fixed wheel compensation, the City, 3401 Gibraltar, seems to run ok. Probably aided by the weight of the whitemetal boiler.- 182 replies
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GWR & LNWR Pre-grouping 4mm locos workbench
Brassey replied to Brassey's topic in Kitbuilding & Scratchbuilding
Herewith chassis progress for my Finney GWR Duke. As stated before, the twin beams are retained by tabs through the frames. No too convinced of the longevity of this solution but time will tell. There's just enough room in P4 to get a High Level RoadRunner gearbox between now. Next, do they same on my Finney GWR City: The beams sit just below the footplate.- 182 replies
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