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The bowling hall actually has some advantages. The raised outer walkway makes it’s easier to see the layouts around the edge of the hall.

Marc Models did an OO kit but they are no longer trading. If you use ‘Night Ferry’ in search you’ll find a number of relevant threads. Roy

There are a number of weed killing train threads on RMWeb but unfortunately many (all?) of the photos were lost in the IT crash. A search of the web shows there was quite a lot of regional variation and post-nationalisation the Southern PLVs were a popular choice for the vans. Examples: https://blog.railwaymuseum.org.uk/a-weed-or-not-a-weed/ https://www.anistr.com/-/galleries/railway-images-galleries/photos-of-british-railways-1948-1968/br-coaches-and-wagons-and-other-rolling-stock#media_62343234-2652-4cda-a6d4-38002fc1caff Roy

I think that is a later version - there were many. My variant represents the train in these photographs:- https://twitter.com/TurnipRail/status/1357244251382439936?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1357244251382439936|twgr^062efe934e3bf4ea22eca2de435e50dc651e8272|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rmweb.co.uk%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FTurnipRail%2Fstatus%2F1357244251382439936

Somewhere in the thread on the Genesis and Hornby 4 and 6 wheel coaches are some photos of a 1937 SR weed killing train composed of a modified 6 wheel passenger brake and 6 old tenders. I thought this would be an interesting modelling challenge. Thanks to Tony Seal (ex 3mm Society) I was able to find some more prototype information and photos. The attached photos show my 4mm scale (OO) representation of the train. The van, as per prototype, is a modified SECR 6 wheel passenger brake van, with duckets at both ends, made from a Branchlines brass kit. The tenders are 4 ex-SECR O1 tenders and 2 ex-LSWR Adams tenders from Golden Arrow Productions resin kits. The build includes quite a few 3D printed items (e.g. pipe fittings, valves) produced by friends in the Risborough & District Model Railway Club (RDMRC). If you want to see the model in the flesh you’ll find it on the RDMRC stand at Railex, Aylesbury on 27-28 May : http://www.railex.org.uk/ Roy

Hi, I’ve attached one of the Club’s photos of the prototype with a close-up of the tie rod which according to Warburton’s “A Pictorial Record of LMS Signals” is 1.5” in diameter. For the model I used 0.5mm brass wire. The base of the signal and the ‘return’ wire will be set in the layout underlay. You can see from the lean on the prototype that the tie rod was needed (and was maybe not entirely successful!). This angled tie rod anchored in a concrete block replaced a horizontal wire which I believe was attached to another post. Hope this is helpful, Roy

Hi Steve, Thanks for the inspirational thread and for your and Les’ specific advice via pm. I thought you might like to see the latest signal I have built for ‘Aylesbury’ - https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/24951-modelling-aylesbury-station-risborough-district-mrc/ This is a two doll bracket with an elevated shunt signal:- Roy

The tumblehome must be very slight - I can't detect it in these photos. http://forum.e-train.fr/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=28566&start=660 Roy

If you can find it, there are drawings in "Night Ferry" by George Behrend and Gary Buchanan. This also contains information on the SNCF and SR baggage vans, lots of photos etc. Over time modifications were made to the coaches - particularly the underframe and windows so any drawings need to be supplemented with photos from your chosen period. The Sleeper at the MRN is hybrid of different periods so be careful about using it as a reference. MARC Models may also be able to help. They produce 4mm kits - see:- http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/110266-marc-models-sr-ferry-brake-van/page-1 Roy