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    Southern Region, British Railways c1962 in finescale OO. Made my first loco kit 43 years ago, but not completed any scenery yet! Enjoy being a MR club member.

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  1. My chosen modelling period is c1962, by which time, as Mike king states in his Southern Pull-Push Stock book 4 of the 5 (set 382 withdrawn 1959 following fire damage) had been repainted in BR (SR) green. There are a couple of colour pictures in Michael Welch's Southern Coaches in Colour showing set 383 in green with a good finish. There is also a picture of set 384 in crimson in 1960 in the same book so I would guess they had been repainted at overhaul in the early '60s. My set will be 383 as there are some detail differences between sets, so will be BR (SR) green, the same as the Bulleid stoc
  2. Hello Jack, I do not have a copy of the Stephen Williams Pt2 so cannot comment on his build. The 247 kit is no longer available, but looking at Mallard's Bill Bedford etches they would seem to be identical (not sure they are available at the moment either). I found a few discrepancies when comparing the etches to the drawings in King's Southern Pull-Push coaches and Weddell's LSWR Coaches books notably the positioning of the driving end windows which caused some problems with end details but not the kind of problems you describe. Most of the other issues I have describe
  3. Sorry Phil I am a bit of a luddite when it comes to technology - I don't even own a mobile phone (which causes me no end of trouble these days!) Tony
  4. As I wanted to change the bogies anyway I thought I would have a look to see how much work would be involved in fitting a set of cams; I have quite a few different spares from various makes in my spares box (never throw anything away!). I found two basic types, one which fits through a hole in the underframe to retain the front end, and the other which engages in a groove behind the buffer beam. I used some examples of the latter which came from the Kernow Gate Stock which I had just worked on (I fitted screw couplings to the outer ends) as they also had a rounded end to fit against the centra
  5. A couple of fairly quick projects recently; following the release of the latest EFE versions of the Gate Stock I dug out my Kernow BR green version. Following the info from other modellers on this site (for which many thanks), plus the details in Weddell's LSWR Coaches book I moved all the underframe equipment to the correct sides on the driving trailer, made the extra interior partition, painted and fitted passengers and curtains. I also reduced the width of the bogie footboards which made a big difference to the appearance. I also recently purchased the latest Hornby
  6. 6 weeks on and quite a few hours at the workbench have resulted in the Ironclad pull push set now being completed awaiting paint. A lot of fettling was required to enable the set to be pushed around sub 3' curves due to the length of the buffers leading to buffer locking. In the end I used a fixed brass bar between the two coaches, sprung to centralise, fitting to a hole in the other buffer beam. Coaches can still be more closely coupled for static display. The spare cut down Kirk plastic roofs were reshaped, shortened then had strips of 0.75mm plastic glued to deepen
  7. Phil, Good to hear you are having a go too - I found a lot of issues with the etches; when soldering the coaches together start with the small ducket side widows to the ducket sides, then this assembly soldered to the ends with the main sides soldered on last using the tabs on the duckets to locate. The end etches are too long for the formed sides and I had to cut about 0.5mm from the bottom of each end before assembly. The etched steps are fine for the brake composite but there is insufficient for the brake third end and there are no locating slots anyway. The large central steps
  8. Initial work was to solder the bogie frames together with some Romford 14mm wheels from the stock box. I fitted top hat brass bearings which necessitated having to turn down the axles of the wheelsets as they were now too long for the bogie width. Also complicated by the fact that when I opened the bogie packs I found that one bogie had an 8' stretcher instead of the 9' sides! Photo above shows the completed bogies with a standard 8' Southern bogie for comparison. Next I assembled the other components I had amassed ready to start the rest of the constructio
  9. In order to not clog this thread, which should be about Phil's efforts to construct this stock (which I will continue to watch for hints and tips) I have put my own efforts in my thread in the 'Modifying and Detailing RTR stock' section.
  10. During lockdown 1 & 2 I have dusted off an old set of 247 Development etches for ex-Southern Ironclad pull-push conversions that I have had in my store cupboard for several years. Coincidentally Mallard60022 of this parish was also embarking on one of the same sets so I was initially posting on his thread, but now rather than clogging his thread up with my ramblings I have added my progress to my existing Southern Region coach building thread here. The bits I had assembled over the years consisted of the brass etches for the two coaches, an etch with the ends and some other det
  11. Phil, Does this mean you have given up on this project for the time being? Hope not. Having all sorts of fun trying to progress my own set; could do with some company! Tony
  12. Phil, 247 Developments is still showing the 9' Ashford bogies as 'cast to order' reference C521 - may be worth a call or email? Look forward to seeing your progress. Tony
  13. I was hoping that perhaps others were looking at their kits for these vehicles so that we could share experiences of the construction of these vehicles. My etches seem to be the same as Mallard's above (although mine were obtained from 247 Developments as then was rather than Bill Bedford). Regarding the problem with the bogie mentioned in my last post I managed to solder some white metal fillets to the errant stretcher to make the correct length; a bit of filing resulted in a set of bogies. The only other modification was to fit brass top hat bearings, which necessitat
  14. I hope Mallard60022 does not think I am taking over his thread but he did ask to share others experience of making these sets. At the weekend I unpacked the bogies I had previously bought from 247 Developments, having lain in my 'to do' pile for about 10 years. You can see from the picture above that there are three bogie centre castings of one type (correct) and one for something else with a shorter wheelbase! I think I am a bit to late to ask for a replacement (the business has changed hands in the meantime) so will have to come up with a method of either
  15. Chris, How did you manage the turn-ins at the ends before the duckets? The body shape from tumblehome to recessed flat sides for the doors seems quite complex and I am pondering how to bend (and reinforce) the etched sides to this profile. Any pictures of your set? Thanks Tony
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