Hi , thank you for the replies, I,ll try the peco way and see how I get on,btw the layout is only 4 ft by 1 so not complicated. I suppose the thing that worries me most is that in dc if you get it wrong it doesn't,t work, but in Dcc if I get it wrong it could blow a not inexpensive decoder.Oh and yes I do have a fine tip s.iron Cheers all.