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I've always regarded the cab of the 5MT as too wrong. Why do the sides continue upwards above the rainstrip over the windows, as if the windows and rainstrip need to be pushed up a tad. They got it right with the 9F etc.. Just can't look at it. It seems exaggerated on the Farish one.

The green 31s around the Lea Valley Line and Temple Mills circa 69/70 all seemed to have the arrow emblems, both disc and headcode fitted examples. If you spotted a 31 with a grey roof head-on (all had full yellow ends at this time), we often used to discuss if it will be one of the few remaining with a lion logo. But only the 31s & 15s, never the Green 37s or 47s had the arrows.

It's just occured to me looking at the picture of Watersmeet, and the one I linked of Biggin Hill, that both these flat deflector plates also have the horozontal brackets for fixing the large nameboards (Devon Belle?) to. The curved ones do not. Maybe on the smaller light pacifics they needed flat deflectors to attach those huge nameboards to? edit: Also Lord Beaverbrook has flat defelctors and the same bracket for the nameboard http://www.flickr.com/photos/david_christie/6171260689/ as does Exmouth http://www.flickr.com/photos/razeldazel/8023880461/in/photostream/

A number did have those flat deflectors Biggin Hill for example http://www.flickr.com/photos/rgadsdon/6925017682/ I also have a video of it departing Waterloo and the rear view shows it to be very flat.

As I understand it, the first indegenous Southern Region Loco to recieve a small yellow panel was E6001 in 1962, but it was the only one until 1964, when a start was made to apply them to all units & locos. The first class 33 to carry a yellow panel was D6580 (the prototype push pull one, still in green) in 1966. As it goes, the shape of yellow panel on these type 3 locos was still not finalised in 1966, and this first one had rounded corners to it. So the Southern was two years behind everyone else in making yellow panels standard on their own stock. and even then seemed reluctant to apply yellow to it's stock. Off topic, but the blue AC electrics of the West Coast Route had no yellow panels until 1965, but then recieved them within weeks throughout the fleet.

Nice of Hornby Magazine to show us a picture of an Andrew Barclay 0-6-0 shunter to announce the Hunslet class 05 shunter (page 14 January edition).

D605Eagle, on 16 May 2012 - 10:53 , said: What struck me as a little odd was theres no OHE warning flashes on the model, then I looked at pictures of the real things in that era, and they don't have any too. Why was that? I thought everything had them after about 1961. What is even more surprising is that the AC electrics did not recieve the yellow panels until 1965, despite being much quieter & quicker on the approach than the English Electric type 4s & Stanier machinery that preceded them.

If so where is it's own small yellow panel that it would already have?. Also is the strip between the two doors part of the body/nose? Surely it would be green with two seperate yellow doors?

The clip was filmed in black and white by ATV television, but never used. They later went on to use 16mm film. The 3MT was 82023 on the Kenny Belle, one of those standard non-corridors was probably the experimental fibre glass one used on the service back then. Location is Kings Road looking north over the old Chelsea & Fulham station platforms towards Fulham Road (Stamford Bridge football and Greyhound stadium top left, Earls Court exibition halls straight ahead). Here's a London steam version of the video you used. http://vimeo.com/20162283 look out for the class 15 on pilot duties at Kings Cross and the the 37 at Liverpool Street both rubbing shoulders with the steam locos of the time. click on the "nostalgia" link on the right half way down the page for more of those type videos edited because I could not spell corridors!