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    I used to model S&DJR and GWR in the 1960s. I have all my father's railway photos, including his Beckerlegge collection of LNER & constituent company photos from around the grouping era, and many of his books. I photograph railways as and when I travel on them. So I am interested in railways, full-sized & models, but I am a fairly light-weight when it comes to technical details.
    I have uploaded photo into albums here. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/profile/14351-phil_sutters/&tab=node_gallery_gallery Dad's and my photos can be seen in full (if I have scanned them!) at http://www.ipernity.com/doc/philsutters/album/538609

    1.12.2016 ipernity is likely to close at the end of January 2017. I shall add further albums of Dad's photos here over the next couple of months. As I have them on file and the original prints and/or negatives I don't need to transfer them from ipernity.
    November 2017. ipernity has been rescued by its users and is now operating as a not-for-profit organisation. There are some good railway photos on there, although the rail enthusiasts aren't there in large numbers.
    (N.B. some firewalls don't like ipernity I am told)

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  1. I think that its current location is not one that it would have been used in. If you look at Google maps it is opposite the inshore end of a dock with the railway running between it and the dock. I take your point about different sized jibs for different lifting tasks. Many of the photos of Newhaven show the small rail mounted types, as were used at Highbridge. The trio of cranes at the entrance to the West India Docks, which are in the distance in this shot taken when the Swedish ship Gotheborg was visiting still seem to be there, judging by the current 3D view from the Google spy satellite.
  2. I think that its current location is not one that it would have been used in. If you look at Google maps it is opposite the inshore end of a dock with the railway running between it and the dock. I take your point about different sized jibs for different lifting tasks. Many of the photos of Newhaven show the small rail mounted types, as were used at Highbridge.
  3. I don't think that I have added this S&P crane from Chatham Historic Dockyard previously
  4. By pure coincidence, I have just bought the Oakwood Press book by S.Jordan 'Ferry Services of the LB&SCR'. There are two photos of ships resting on the Newhaven Harbour gridiron. In this case the gridiron was installed to allow minor repairs to be done locally, with out the need for a dry dock. The railway company had its own marine engineering workshop there, to service its fleet of cross channel ferries, with a massive set of sheer-legs to lift ships' boilers out for maintenance. The workshop was converted in 2014/5 into a University Technical College for 14 - 18 year-olds studying science, maths and engineering. Unfortunately it hasn't attracted enough students and has been wound down. There has been talk of converting it into a FE college for the same range of subjects. You can see my photos of the work to convert the workshops at http://www.ipernity.com/doc/philsutters/album/723445 . They include photos of the original railway buildings demolished or converted.
  5. There is a fairly comprehensive thread at - including responses from Hattons and details of changes they plan to make to their original designs as a result of RMweb members comments and suggestions.
  6. From the photos I have of S&DJR coaches, the pipe comes through the buffer beam to the left of the draw hook, as you look at the end, and it is then cranked over at an angle and then is cranked back to the vertical on the centre line. As long as the bags on adjoining carriages are long enough, it shouldn't matter which side they are on, as long as they are close to the centre. If they are all on the same side they will connect diagonally above the coupling.
  7. There can be huge differences in the height of tides. At Newhaven on the south coast, the next spring tide on the 15th October is expected to be 3.4ft at low tide and 22ft at high tide. Some places in the Bristol Channel have even bigger differences between high and low tides. The photos of Newhaven marina at high and low tide - the actual heights I didn't record - can be seen in the photo below. It is really a matter for you to decide bearing in mind what type of shipping you want include, and how it fits with the rest of the layout's scenery. I guess most people would show the tide fairly full, allowing a safe margin for ensuring the water doesn't overtop the quayside and flood the area around. As for loading and unloading at different states of tide, ships have derricks and ports have cranes to lift the goods if needed - there is another thread about dockside cranes. Fishing boat jetties usually have some simple hand or winch operated hoists to lift the boxes of fish to the quayside. You can see one circled in the fish quay photo.
  8. Michael Brown's photo of former GNR 4-4-2s 990 & 521 climbing out of Leeds- 20.9.1953 I don't know my father's connection with Michael Brown, but this and a photo of A3 60074 Harvester are in the back of his 1957 - 61 album along with others by a number of photographers. Michael Brown obviously has Yorkshire connections at this time, when we had just moved to Somerset from Ripon, so I guess that they were railway enthusiasts who continued a correspondence after we moved. If Mr.Brown or the current copyright holders of these two excellent photos have any objection to me sharing them publicly, I shall remove them. My email address is in my profile.
  9. Here we are at the Highbridge stop. and the RCTS special on 6.3.1966
  10. I am not sure how authentically this rolling stock represents wagons actually used in the dockyards. Some could have been acquired to dress the scene in the historic dockyards. There are several adjacent photos with stock photographed at Chatham and Portsmouth. http://www.ipernity.com/doc/philsutters/25932701/in/album/509153 and there are these cranes http://www.ipernity.com/doc/philsutters/25932711//in/album/502415
  11. Dad's spotting logs show several panniers at Templecombe in 1963-4. The only pannier he records at Highbridge is 3758 on a train to Evercreech Junction on 20.9.1962. 3720 is recorded at TC on 13.8.63, 4.9.63 & 13.4.64 4634 on 4.9.63, 13.4.64, 16.4.64 and at Evercreech Junction on 13.8.63 4691 on 18.5.63 4631 on 16.4.64 What were their duties if they weren't on Highbridge services? Of course they may have come there when Dad wasn't around. He had his parish duties and didn't spend all his time lurking around the station!
  12. Light-weight chain can sometimes be found in the jewellery trays in charity shops. I used some I found for my steam cranes. The bucket is the top button off a Lidl's perfume spray!
  13. You are welcome. The rope of the size of that in that photo is what would be used to moor decent sized ships, for example the Newhaven to Dieppe ferry. That type of rope or cable as the heavier ropes are sometimes called might be represented by the cords used for pull-cord bathroom lights or on venetian blinds. Look in a few skips for the latter - or snip a bit off one that is in use. They are nearly always too long!.
  14. If you have a local soft furnishing supplies shop, you might find a suitable thread there. I found one suitable for rigging my 4mm SDJR ships, in our local shop - Guterman CA02776. It is strong but flexible, but fairly thin about .3mm - about 1" diameter. Picture hanging wire is another option. Mine came from a pound shop picture hanging kit. It is a brass coloured 6-strand wire, which keeps its shape when bent or coiled. It is about .6mm or 2". It depends how neat and tidy you want your dockyard to be. Our local port, Newhaven, is mainly for fishing and leisure craft. The fishing area is not very tidy, especially in the more unused areas. Here are some samples!!
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