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    I used to model S&DJR and GWR in the 1960s. I have all my father's railway photos, including his Beckerlegge collection of LNER & constituent company photos from around the grouping era, and many of his books. I photograph railways as and when I travel on them. So I am interested in railways, full-sized & models, but I am a fairly light-weight when it comes to technical details.
    I have uploaded photo into albums here. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/profile/14351-phil_sutters/&tab=node_gallery_gallery Dad's and my photos can be seen in full (if I have scanned them!) at http://www.ipernity.com/doc/philsutters/album/538609

    1.12.2016 ipernity is likely to close at the end of January 2017. I shall add further albums of Dad's photos here over the next couple of months. As I have them on file and the original prints and/or negatives I don't need to transfer them from ipernity.
    November 2017. ipernity has been rescued by its users and is now operating as a not-for-profit organisation. There are some good railway photos on there, although the rail enthusiasts aren't there in large numbers.
    (N.B. some firewalls don't like ipernity I am told)

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  1. The point of having a ramp is to allow people, whether staff or passengers to get down to track level either to cross the tracks on a foot crossing or to continue along a walking route beside the track. Unless there would have been a foot crossing there would have been nowhere to go at the end of the ramp. I suspect that having a crossing close to a tunnel mouth would have been contrary to regulations. Perhaps a some low-relief trees might be a better option, like Gunnislake if the shrubbery had grown a bit higher. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~owend/interests/rail/stnpages/gunnislake.html Later - I have now in fact found a ramp just before a tunnel, although the tunnel is still in use at St. Leonard's Warrior Square.
  2. One sprig of pine foliage doesn't a Spanish scenario make. Newhaven's Ouse hasn't quite got the same ring as Seville's Guadalquivir. I am not aware of Mountfield or its mines. At one point there was talk of an east west route for freight, from the channel tunnel, using a doubled Ashford to Hastings line and restoring the Eastbourne cutoff. I am not sure that a solution to getting across Brighton was even mooted. I don't think that the coastal fringe has enough population density to warrant such a scheme.
  3. Does the track extend beyond the end of the platform? Sometimes the ramp is the way on to the station or one of the platforms. You will get better suggestions if you outline your track plan and general layout of your terminus. I sure that whether you hack the ramp off or leave it there will be a prototype for it!
  4. Newhaven now, in the summer of 2020, has two sets of sidings for aggregates traffic. The first set is north of Newhaven Town Station and serves Days Aggregates depot, which handles several grades of quarried aggregates. The sidings are also the loading point for flyash from the domestic waste incinerator. There is now a second set to the east of the former Newhaven Marine station. The tracks follow the line through the station and then swing east in the direction taken by the East Beach Tramway. This is the loading point for sea-dredged shingle aggregate. Sussex seems to have less freight mileage than most counties, so I thought it might be good to bring together what does exist. I have yet to get down to the new Newhaven East Quay sidings when there is loading going on. There is a video showing the first train arriving and being loaded. You have to scroll down to First service commences to find the link to the video. https://rail-record.co.uk/newhaven-marine-development/ The final photo shows the new bridge, which gives improved access to the East Quay. Previously this was via a level crossing. The Port Authority is planning to expand the port facilities in that area and may develop additional freight flows. The Port Access Bridge has been added to show that the development is planned to be more than a couple of sidings. It is a road bridge that spans the Seaford branch and the tidal creek which leads to Tidemills, which used to have its own station. The dredged shingle is transferred from the dredger to the loading area on a conveyor belt type of transporter. It is loaded on to the wagons by bucket loaders.
  5. The Brighton Toy & Model Museum one may be the one that appeared at the 2013 Brighton ModelEx, alongside a working model of the Volks Electric Railway. There is a rather less authentic, but working model in the Paradise Park Gardens in Newhaven, as driven by one of my grandsons.
  6. These buffers are pretty minimal. The wooden buffer pads are only a few feet from the back wall. These are a Southern style.
  7. I bought mine from Brian's newsagents, beside Seaford Station this morning, having stood patiently waiting for a trainload of teens and twenties to clear the pavement outside and head for the beach.
  8. If you scroll down the page that you link to - under the sub-theme 'Rowing' the Oxford and Cambridge boat race is mentioned. In the inter-war years that would have been a much more exuberant social event than the current races attract. Probably more in common with the Henley Regatta than the modern varsity boat race. The poster artists always made the most of aspirational social events or locations. Just look at some of the LNER posters for Scarborough or LMS ones for Southport or Southern's for Bexhill and Hastings.
  9. These are mid- rather than late- 60s but if they help at all... I have also added a couple of spotting log book extracts from the period when the photos were taken.
  10. That wasn't the driving theme of the original post - which was looking at the possibilities for a layout which could have SDJR and GWR running with some sort of connection. As it happens the layout my Dad and I had in the 1960s tried to do just that, with SDJR running over a GW branch in the area of Coleford (Somt), as shown below. When one bears in mind that at the same time Mac Pyrke was running Bulleid light pacifics and black fives to the sand-dunes of Berrow, passing within half a mile of our layout, that doesn't seem too far fetched. My point was - how does someone who might enjoy a conversation about the LNWR and Midland in the north-west spot the discussion that is taking place in a thread about the SDJR and GWR in the south-west? Returning to the subject of GWR v SDJR animosity, there is, in Chris Handleys Maritime Activities of the S&DR, a photo of a railway crane lifting the boiler out of one of the S&D's coasters at Highbridge Wharf, ready for transfer to Highbridge Works for repair. It appears that this may have travelled from Bristol on GWR metals, rather than traipse around via Bath & Evercreech. That I saw on a local history site I can longer locate. So perhaps not total non-cooperation.
  11. It always amazes me how far RMWeb threads can get from their original starting point. How do people who might like a debate about the relationship of the LNWR with its neighbours in the north-west find it is when it is lurking in a thread entitled SDJR connections with the GWR?
  12. On the subject of plank loads, timber was imported in large quantities into the UK from Scandinavia from way back. From the 1820s it was realized that to maximize the ships loads, timber sawn into planks could be stowed more economically than in log form. Surrey Docks in London had huge timber wharves and the ships cargoes were off-loaded plank by plank by 'deal porters' who carried lengthy planks from ship to the timber stores on their back. There is a sculpture showing the method in the dock area today. http://www.ipernity.com/doc/philsutters/25874997 The SDJR's Highbridge Wharf had a substantial timber import trade from the 19th century until WW2. In Chris Handley's 'The Maritime Activities of the S&DR' John Bland's timber yard can be seen around 1900 with great stacks of sawn timber stored under sheets in the open. Their large timber sheds and saw mills reached the height of their business between the wars. I have only found one photo of a train laden with timber planks in 1924, there on the Wharf, but they must have been transporting the imports away by rail from the 19th century. So to suggest that only raw, unsawn timber was transported prior to 1905 seems unlikely, if timber was being imported in planks well before that.
  13. I am fairly sure that I used Kenline white metal castings for the running gear, brakes etc for the SDJR goods stock I made in the '60s & early '70s. I wasn't too picky about the correct axle boxes or brake arrangements, although I tried to use the correct length springs. They were nice sharp castings and although I couldn't be sure which of my surviving rolling stock has Kenline parts I am sure some are still around. The bodies were scratch-built. I couldn't afford full kits at that time.
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