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  1. Once beyond Parson Street, I can't visualize anywhere else having any loops until Highbridge.
  2. It seems a bit odd to send them round the WSM loop only ten miles or so from Highbridge.
  3. The whole point of a hobby is that it is yours. At work or in family or social settings there will be things that need doing in particular ways, but with a hobby it is yours to do in any way you like. Even if you join a club, whether it is for railway modelling or playing rugby, you opt into the group rules because you want to. I am not bothered whether my trains run or not. I like making things and a diorama is fine by me. Model railways are always a comprise. With few exceptions nothing moves except the trains. The distances involved are very often highly compressed. Why the self-confessed 'moaner' bothered to write a letter and why it was published is beyond me. He should get on with his doubtless highly prototypical N gauge Japanese shunting layout.
  4. According to my father's spotting log, the Lion was also at Mallingford, aka Bristol TM, at the same time as gas turbine 18100, so there's another wacky combination.
  5. From other family photos of Uncle Walter I would say that it dates from about 1900 - 1905, certainly before 1910.
  6. Flat caps have not always been just worn by working class men. This photo, found in my Mother's family albums, shows a very middle class bunch of guys in Hereford in the early 1900s. I think one is one of my great uncles, but I have no idea what they were doing, with a couple of postmen in uniform and some with weapons in the group. Peaky Blinders comes to mind, although I have never watched the programme.
  7. This thread was active in the early days after I joined RMweb and I have only just noticed it. The Warship, while not on the S&D was heading there to pick up the milk tankers from Bason Bridge. The other photos may not be strictly on the S&D as the alignment through Highbridge station to the M5 works was on new metals I think.
  8. Another excellent model. I have been thinking about making the slightly larger two-horse version, which ran between Highbridge GWR station and Burnham around 1890, that I have seen in a book of old photographs of Burnham and Highbridge, using Scale Model Scenery wheels and wagon springs. That one has GWR on the panels on either side of the windows. The lamp is in front of the main cabin. Between the ribs on the side is what appears to be 'Highbridge Station via Burnham', which makes me think that this was on a changeable destination board, with perhaps 'Berrow (or Brean) via Burnham' on the back. On the subject of drivers there are a number of military drivers that could be used, with a bit of fettling of pockets, puttees and headgear, from this one-man manufacturer - http://www.wdmodels.com/page3.html . That's the figures page. There is a separate page for horse-drawn vehicles. I like his horses. I am not sure whether the harnesses are suitable for civilian use but they look ok to me. His products are very detailed. He uses a mixture of white metal and resin - not in the same model as a rule. His motorcycles have even got tiny etched parts. I have a pack of these which I am plucking up courage put together.
  9. Faller & Auhagen both do sets of pipes with fittings, but don't seem to do fittings on their own. They are HO scale kit manufacturers, so their's may be on the smaller side. Modelu do rainwater drain fittings which may have some of what you want.
  10. This one is within a major station's limits
  11. Also available in 12"/1ft scale at Amberley - I assume the parts are still there. If you want another oddity, you could give 18100 a test run down the branch. It was at Mallingford / BTM at the same time as the Thunderbolt.
  12. What is now Newhaven Harbour station used to have lines that terminated along the quayside in front of the London and Paris Hotel, as well as those on the through line to Seaford and the lines that ran into, what was until recently, Newhaven Marine. Just south of Harbour station the lines cross the Tidemills Creek. The names of those two stations have changed over the years. Now the third station, further north, Newhaven Town, is actually the alighting point for the current ferry terminal. The line through the Marine station has become the access to a sea-dredged aggregates depot. If the branch to Seaford terminated at harbour station, this could look like your scenario. If you are modelling today's scene, you might want to change the location off third-rail electrification - 313s, with 377s on Brighton and Hove match days, and 66s on the aggregates may be a bit limiting!
  13. I am sorry it has taken over a year to answer your question! The answer is yes - rewheeled with Romford wheels. It was about the only 0-4-4t chassis around in the 1960s. I don't think that I would be so brave now.
  14. I wonder how often 12"/1ft rolling stock actually rests against buffer stops. I guess that there is often less room to manoeuvre on model railways, which are often quite severely compressed to fit in the space available. With regard to the lights, I am sure that there are kits around for buffers stop lamps. LED and fibre optics both can be used to make very tiny lights these days.
  15. Crates containing imported goods were most often new ones, manufactured near the source of the product. Typically they would be made of new cheap timber, which is generally pale. Similarly industrial goods made in this country would travel in timber crates. It seems that it was cheaper to buy new and not collect and reuse them. This just the impression I have. The same can be seen to some extent with pallets now. Some are recycled but others find their way into upcycling projects or Firework night bonfires. Branding could be by stencil or paper labels. Food products were more likely to have been transported in branded cardboard boxes. Upmarket brands sometimes would have decorated their crates with colours to suit their marketing. You would have to try looking for company archive photos for clues to that subject. Some reuse did occur. The most obvious were the plywood tea chests much favoured by removal firms well into the 1960s and 70s. They gradually became darker as they were used and abused.
  16. The cattle wagons are still in SDJR livery. These two photos are not precisely dated and I think could be a bit earlier. The wagons' owners lists all those shown through a dozen or more photos spread across the period from 1900 to 1937. So the mix does not appear all in one photo. The COOP had a coal yard on the edge of the wharf. One would need to look at goods trains in the area to see if coal came in from the Somerset coalfield or elsewhere. The S&D and GWR had goods facilities to the east of the wharf, on the other side of what is now the A38. The S&D goods shed I photographed some time after the line's closure. The GWR goods shed is beyond the goods train which would have come from Burnham, the Wharf or the S&D shed which was a hundred yards or so off camera to the left. To the right is yet another of the brick-works in the area, to add to the three off the line to Burnham. One of Dad's photos.
  17. Although the Bland's would have cut timber to size, they were major importers and stock holders for the mid-Somerset area, so not all the imports would have gone through the saw-mill.
  18. There are photos from early in the 20th century through to the 1930s. Timber and coal seem to appear throughout that period, as does rail. The cattle wagons near the quayside are in a couple of photos from the early 1920s or possibly a bit earlier. The wagons are SDJR stock and they are plastered with limewash. There are wagons with visible markings from MR, LMS, NE, North Stafford, LBSCR, LSWR, SR & GWR. There are only occasional PO wagons. One, in a later photo I have seen, shows the end of an eight plank open, which I have worked out from the ......AND and Grimsby, must been a Norstand wagon. Richard Kelham in his PO wagons of Somerset doesn't identify any PO wagons based in or around Highbridge and Burnham, despite the numerous PO wagons with local traders names on marketed by the Burnham MRC, which they acknowledge are fictional.
  19. The photos in Chris Handley's book show sawn timber being imported. A local history site records that unloading was done manually as it was in the Surrey Docks in London, with 'deal porters' carrying long lengths of timber on their backs, a practice recalled in this sculpture. http://www.ipernity.com/doc/philsutters/25874997 , from the quayside to the timberyard. The Scandinavian ships were considerably larger than the S&D's own vessels - over 1000 gross tons as against under 200. In the Middleton Press book on the Burnham to Evercreech line, there is a photo which shows timber being unloaded, but in my estimation the location is not Highbridge. The crane track was higher than the railway tracks and of a different gauge and so not connected, as the lines are in that photo. There is also a line of open wagons crossing the back of the scene where there was no track.
  20. Highbridge imported coal from as far away as Saundersfoot and the Forest of Dean, as well as the South Wales coalfields. A lot was loco coal for its own use and for the LSWR/Southern Railway. Likewise there was considerable traffic in rails from South Wales steel works for both railways. Highbridge also received very large amounts of timber from Scandinavia, which passed through John Bland's sawmill and wood yard, before being transported out in open, partly sheeted wagons. Flour was another import from up the Bristol Channel. There were also three or four brickworks with sidings off the line to Burnham. In the photos in Chris Handley's 'The Maritime Activities of the Somerset and Dorset Railway' there are a surprisingly large number of cattle wagons right on the quayside. Given the huge range of the tides in the harbour I wonder how easy it was loading and unloading cattle at different water levels. Nearby was the local cattle market and the Highbridge Bacon Factory, both of which created traffic for the S&D as well as the GWR. Within the wharf area was the substantial concrete building that initially processed peat from the Somerset Levels and subsequently manufactured smokeless fuel briquettes from culm - anthracite and coal dust - which seems to have originated from Saundersfoot. Most of these products must have travelled east along S&D metals. The briquettes seem to have required vans, the rail - bogie bolsters, coal - a variety of wagons from many different railway companies and the livestock also travelled in a variety of companies' wagons. What the period photos do not show is more than a handful of private owner wagons. Incoming traffic also included steam-rollers for the local road making and repairing company of W.W.Bumcombe - eight arrived in one consignment from Babcock and Wilcox. As Buncombe's had 150 steam rollers working across the country, there must have been a fair traffic in their rollers.
  21. A hastily taken shot, through the window of a Brighton & Hove bus, passing Bishopstone.
  22. You may find some useful pointers in this thread. Grahame has also produced a booklet/magazine with many of his methods. I doubt that he has any left, but they may turn up second-hand. The buildings he has constructed are very varied, despite being in a central London location. The images of his buildings on the earlier pages seem to have disappeared, may be when the RMweb platform changed, so try the more recent pages.
  23. The smaller quay could be a canal quay. Which side are you viewing the station from? From the area at the top of your plan I guess. If so you might well be better off with some taller buildings to act as a back scene.
  24. Woolwich Arsenal narrow gauge railway, now there's a box file layout, but someone must have done that already. It seems that there is actually a full-sized project under way near the site. http://therailwayproject.blogspot.com/p/royal-arsenal-narrow-gauge-railway.html
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