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  1. Thanks for posting that; I was completely unaware of these models. Is it my imagination, or is there someone cycling past the tank in the last-but-one photo?
  2. Something to note is that a lot of the 'new-build' unfitted stock was delivered with only the iron-work in grey, and all timber unpainted (apart for the black patches for lettering).
  3. Fairly certain they did, but I can't find my copy of 'The Churnet Valley Railway' at present. (Just checked; the photo in the book I referred to shows only 13t and 27t tipplers, 16t minerals and 25t hoppers. I have seen a photo with Prestwins, alongside Covhops, taken in the mid-1970s.)
  4. You could try Bovington; if AFVs were transported by rail, they might well have records. Most inter-war tanks seem to have been quite small, so may well have been carried on Lowmacs, or even low-sided merchandise opens.
  5. From the mid-1950s, there was a campaign to retro-fit vacuum brakes to 10' wb merchandise vehicles that had been built unfitted; these were mainly wartime, and early post-war builds. Once this was in progress, 9' unfitted (and later, fitted) merchandise stock was withdrawn: there were oddities:- 9' china-clay wagons 9' unfitted vans used on certain traffics on the Waverley line, serving customers with wagon turntables 9' Pallet Vans, converted from 9' fitted GWR 'Minks' , which were largely confined to a flow from Kirkcubright. With regard to open wagons, all types lasted until the 1980s (LNER steel High, LMS/BR corrugated end and wooden end opens, GW, SR and LNER types ) .BR didn't introduce its own design for opens, simply continuing building LNER and LMS- designs. It did build a lot of both ordinary opens, and shock-fitted types. There were ever-diminishing numbers of ex-PO types that survived into the 1960s; a lot ended their days on Loco-Coal duties. Some retained quite a bit of their original livery, occasionally with odd planks from other wagons; others were unpainted or grey. Repainting depended where a wagon was overhauled. Main works might carry out a full repaint, but smaller establishments would only repaint what was absolutely essential. Thus wagons could last with traces of original livery for many years. The oddest I remember seeing was a freshly-painted ex-LNER Loco Coal, with black panels carrying the 'Loco Coal' lettering; this was three years after steam finished... The problem is finding views that focus on more than the loco. Wagons have been the 'pauvre parent' until relatively recently, and photos of recognisable vehicles in trains are relatively few and far-between. It might be worth you looking at a few sites on line; Dave F, who posts daily on here, has albums of 1960s views, whilst Ernie Brack (Irish-Swiss Ernie) has albums of photos going back into the 1940s, and before.
  6. A Chaseside, isn't it? My father bought one in the early 1960s, when his firm was doing lots of 'repurposing' of old tinplate works, with lots of waste concrete to move. Can't say I ever remember it working; moving the spoil always seemed to involve hand-balling it into the dumper.
  7. Here's the link to the appropriate wagon on TOUAX's site:- http://www.touaxrail.com/content/ukrfnoos Click on the pdf for a drawing.
  8. I did a little number-cruching. According to TOUAX's web-site, the wagons have an internal length of 19.5 m. the photos in SLG's posting suggest 5 stacks per wagon, meaning each stack is about 3.900m long. If you're modelling in 4mm, this is equivalent to 51mm, which doesn't seem to tie in exactly to any of Goodwood's range. Bear in mind, however that timber lengths might vary according to origin.
  9. Didn't the LNER design have top-flap doors? The closest to the photo I could find in Larkin were the 1/102, MoS-ordered wagons. However, these all seem to have B-prefixed, 5-figure numbers. It is, as you suggest, most probably a mistake; I had a summer job in the early 1970s, part of which involved checking wagon numbers on 16 tonners against a list BR had suggested were on site. It was not uncommon to have wagons with different numbers on either side, or painted and plated numbers being different I even found one with a number indicative of a vehicle transferred to Departmental ex-Coaching Stock (DMxxxxxM)
  10. Definitely Gresley (the way the end of the roof curves down is a giveaway.) It seems to be on Fox, rather than the heavier Gresley bogie. which might make it an early LNER, or even GN, van.
  11. And if you're wondering what you can do with an airport passenger trailer....John Summers Ltd used them to transport workers from the main gates to the different parts of the huge Shotton steel works. Outside shift changes, the tractors would be used to move steel-carrying trailers.
  12. They are still used for bulk china clay to the Potteries, and possibly to Mossend, I believe.
  13. Do my eyes deceive me, or does the second Siphon have roof-vents? I wonder if the Stanier van is the one that was branded 'For Use On West-of-England Newspaper Train Only'
  14. In later years, BR would often send empty ferry-vans to Cornwall, as they were virtually guaranteed a back-load of bagged china clay.
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